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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: altford78] * 2
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I'm not sure what causes it. When I find those plates I toss them, simple as that. Those plates always originate from germ plates, never from proven pure culture or clone. There's something comingled or related to spores which is causing that morphology. I can't name it or explain it, all I know is that it produces too many problems to be qorth the effort. Heavily scalloped plates are thrown into the trash.

Not all of your pictured plates are scalloped. The mycelium is just faster in some places, this is where you select from the strongest/fastest growth to produce symmetrical growth downstream.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Stipe-n Cap said:
Rarely do they ever fruit, when they do my tubs are filled with metabolites and excessive moisture. The fruits are very few and sickly, any fruits are a rarity even when top fruited.



Well fuck.. There goes the last of my hope that my Nat tub will do anything. One plate definitely had a scallop but otherwise nice and even, I didn’t even know that was a thing at the time..

You mentioned you’ve never gotten rid of scalloping with transfers? I found a Nat plate in my fridge that isn’t scalloped. You reckon it’d be safe to assume it didn’t come from the scalloped plate and I can start from that vs going back to spore?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: aPurpleCray0n]
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Oftentimes if it looks good, it's good.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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Sweet, appreciate the knowledge bombs, as always 🙏🏼

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Stipe-n Cap said:
I'm not sure what causes it. When I find those plates I toss them, simple as that. Those plates always originate from germ plates, never from proven pure culture or clone. There's something comingled or related to spores which is causing that morphology. I can't name it or explain it, all I know is that it produces too many problems to be qorth the effort. Heavily scalloped plates are thrown into the trash.

Not all of your pictured plates are scalloped. The mycelium is just faster in some places, this is where you select from the strongest/fastest growth to produce symmetrical growth downstream.



thanks man :yougoodjob:

cooking some agar now, hopefully will manage to get some transfers from the first 4 before they hit the rim. If not, oh well I'll just take from a center spot.

The last 2 are pretty trash though. Sometimes I get plates like that and I wonder if it's hidden contam or just genetics. I looked at them under the scope and can't see shit.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: altford78] * 2
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I'd avoid these altogether, personally.



And the ones circled in red:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: aPurpleCray0n] * 1
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Does this look right? I've tried to put them in fruiting conditions but it's been like this for like 5 days. Nothing really has changed though the little pokey up of the mycelium have gotten little white balls on the end.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Stipe-n Cap said:
I'd avoid these altogether, personally.



And the ones circled in red:





Yikes. These 4 were my best ones, I sent them to LC. You can see the needle pokes.




That rhizo plate on the bottom right is literally the only good rhizo growth I've managed to get out of 4 different prints. Completely by luck too. Everything else looks like the other 3 plates that you've circled or worse.

I think I'll go back to prints and start a new round of germ plates. I'll take a lot of T1 transfers and cull them mercilessly. Might actually get a use of that box of 500 60mm petris.


I'm hoping I'll get rhizomorphs but I probably will not, so how do I pick good tomentose? Those 3 you circled in red are the best I've gotten so far, so if they are not good enough, I need to know what to aim for. (except for that GT, it looks fucky even to me)

Many thanks for taking the time to point out which ones you'd discard, appreciate it even if it hurts :tryingnottodie:


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Edited by altford78 (06/19/23 02:22 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: altford78] * 2
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Germ plates are a crap shoot. The best you can do is select away from contamination.

Here's a typical germ plate:



All of the growth is essentially the same, just don't snag any bac, yeast, etc. It's not until later transfers that you get to see differences in growth. Take a bunch of t1, then discard and narrow your selection criteria as necessary.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Yeah I'm just going to take a lot of wedges from each germ plate, increase my chances of getting a good lineage. I used to do like 2 wedges per germ plate, I'll go up to 5.

I meant to say once I go to T1+, how do I pick good tomentose from shitty tomentose? You discarded those three in my pic, but I haven't gotten anything better looking than that. Even at T3, T4 that's what all my plates look like.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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I buried a PF cake in coir 2 days ago.

The cake is completely covered with coir. Maybe 0.5 inch thick layer.

Should i mist the coir if it's dry or wait with the misting until i see mycelium?

Coir was at field capacity when i buried the cake.



I poked a bunch of holes with a needle into the bag after i took that photo.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: altford78]
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When doing many transfers at once what's the most efficient and trackable method of labeling? I've been making all my transfers then labeling once the session is done outside the sab. @SirP do preprint your labels? That seems like it would be a logical way to do it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NFLProof] * 5
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I work from one donor plate at a time; Stack unlabeled recipient plates and if moving to a new donor plate, put the original on top of the recipients and repeat.  When done, wrap and label one stack at a time.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado] * 2
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That's been exactly what I've done so far.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NFLProof] * 1
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:myman:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NFLProof]
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I use variety- transfer number-mother plate-wedge number- repeat

so AMZ T3 D-A1B2C3 would be Amazon variety, from germ plate AMZ A, wedge 1, T1 plate B, wedge 2, T2 plate C, wedge 3

In practice I often can't be fucked to do it right so I just write the variety and transfer number.


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I also dabble in bacteria

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Edited by altford78 (06/19/23 02:41 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: NFLProof] * 5
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NFLProof said:
When doing many transfers at once what's the most efficient and trackable method of labeling? I've been making all my transfers then labeling once the session is done outside the sab. @SirP do preprint your labels? That seems like it would be a logical way to do it.



No, I do all my note taking and labeling after everything is wrapped.

I'll place all the jars done from one plate together and the plate on top, or stack the receiving plates with the donor on top, or put all the jars together with the master on top.

W/e way you can do it so that you keep likes together and differents separated.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra] * 3
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Yahra said:
I buried a PF cake in coir 2 days ago.

The cake is completely covered with coir. Maybe 0.5 inch thick layer.

Should i mist the coir if it's dry or wait with the misting until i see mycelium?

Coir was at field capacity when i buried the cake.



I poked a bunch of holes with a needle into the bag after i took that photo.




Probably good to go. I never misted this one.

GT - 9 intact 4oz brf cakes - cased with coir - 19.6.23


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Scemilope]
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Hello. Newbie mycology here with a question and a few pics below that pertain to my question/concern. I ordered some spore syringes and when they arrived they didnt look like any of the spore syringes ive had before. They look like liquid culture or contamination to my apprentice mycology brain. Im not sure if its even possible for mycelium to grow in plain water without any additives. I ordered some agar plates to test them but they wont arrive for another few days and im really curious to what you folks have to say about them. 🍄🦠🍄
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: enigmatrip]
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The spores germinated.

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