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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket] * 1
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3 quarts sounds fine to me. I use 22 quart gasket tubs with 2 quarts in them. You could do 4 if you wanted and would probably see an increased yield over 3, but how much and if it would be worth it to you I can't really say.

As for the ratios or how much sub you will need to get to 3-3.5", I'll let someone else chime in because I'm terrible at math and stopped caring about my ratio. I throw my grain in and just pile on the coir/verm until I get to the depth I want. No complaints so far since I'm not skimping on the grain :shrug:

I will say, my gasket tubs work perfectly with Pasty's Ez dialed tubs. Something to consider, but I know unmodified works great for a lot of people.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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Thank you for the info, I was going to take a large measuring cup and pour measured amounts of water into a tub and see how much it takes to reach my desired sub depth and translate that to grain/sub. Or more likely divide the height by 32 to get the quart per inch number then multiply by 3.5. quick dirty math without having the tub in front of me gives me @ 6 quarts to get my depth.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket] * 1
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Don't forget to account for sub compression if you're gonna do that. That is why I gave up on ratios to be honest. I would do like a 1:2 ratio and the sub would be a perfect height. Then I would compress it down and get all the edges nice and tight and my substrate would be like half the height it was at before compression. Then I would have to add more coir and before I knew it I lost count of how many quarts of coir I dropped in lmao.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket]
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Correction, 8 quarts for 3.5 inches so 3Q grain and 5Q sub should do it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket]
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Lol. Good point, didn't think of that. Compression will effectively nearly double what I need to put in there.  Now I'm up to 4 quarts grain. I just don't want my spawn to be too shallow.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket]
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I'm going to make up grain jars this morning so I'll shoot for at least 4 grain jars. Then tomorrow I'll knock them up. Will probably try it with B+ for the first run and get it dialed in a bit before doing a PE6 tub. The PE6 jars I have now are going to shoe boxes to make sure the genetics are still good.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket]
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I think 4 is great too. People who run 66 qt tubs usually use between 4-7 quarts from what I recall for comparison. Good luck on your tub man. :thumbup:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way]
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Thank you! I will certainly share the results, good or bad.  Oh yeah, and I have to bake some vermiculite for it too :rofl:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket]
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4 quarts should colonized quickly.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket] * 1
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I think it's time to say RIP to 10 1L jars. Never took off properly, over-dry grain was the suspect, water injections helped for a little while but they are pretty much dead in the water again at this point, completely stalled out ... :unwanted:

Anyway, my question. I'll be away for 10days 6weeks from now. Am I being stupid thinking to inoculate grain with LC? Assuming best case scenario timeframes, 1 week for colonization, 3 weeks for shoeboxes to fruit... 2 weeks margin of error and second flushes. That's cutting it real tight.

Would you do it? I'm 50/50 on it. Seems like too much stress but I already pretty much lost the current grain so I want to keep the ball rolling and go on the rebound.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: altford78]
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If you're absolutely sure that your LC's clean, do it.

If in doubt, don't.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: altford78]
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You should be able to get one flush in before you leave, but the second flush will probably pop while you are away. Question is how far along will said second flush be when you return. Could be ready to pick, could be a sporulated mess. Maybe only do a couple of shoe boxes so you keep the ball rolling and knock up some grains just before you leave so they'll be ready to send when you return.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra]
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No I mean about the timeframe, unclean LC is a different concern.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket] * 1
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sprocket said:
You should be able to get one flush in before you leave, but the second flush will probably pop while you are away. Question is how far along will said second flush be when you return. Could be ready to pick, could be a sporulated mess. Maybe only do a couple of shoe boxes so you keep the ball rolling and knock up some grains just before you leave so they'll be ready to send when you return.


Yeah, sounds about right. Knowing my luck it's not going to be pretty when I come back.:liottalol:

Grain being knocked up before leaving is 100% happening. :shaqwiggle:

EDIT: Ok, here's the plan. LC to 0.5cl jars, two jars per shoebox, 1:1 spawn to sub ratio. That's all the tricks I know for rapid growth. Temps are naturally high this time of year so that's a given.


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Edited by altford78 (06/06/23 04:56 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: altford78]
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Would an aquarium LED be sufficient to trigger fruiting?  Also, how important is absolute darkness on the “night” time for mushrooms? I have my cultivation tubs inside some locker boxes. They are totally light proof.  Natural light isn’t an option for me where I am. 


The LED lights run very cool, And put out cool white light. Something like this:

https://www.amazon.ca/NICREW-Aquarium-Light-Extendable-Brackets/dp/B0191EWII2/ref=asc_df_B0191EWII2/?tag=googlemobshop-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=293035314673&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10116966522530247502&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001136&hvtargid=pla-313113204696&psc=1

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: altford78]
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altford78 said:
sprocket said:
You should be able to get one flush in before you leave, but the second flush will probably pop while you are away. Question is how far along will said second flush be when you return. Could be ready to pick, could be a sporulated mess. Maybe only do a couple of shoe boxes so you keep the ball rolling and knock up some grains just before you leave so they'll be ready to send when you return.


Yeah, sounds about right. Knowing my luck it's not going to be pretty when I come back.:liottalol:

Grain being knocked up before leaving is 100% happening. :shaqwiggle:

EDIT: Ok, here's the plan. LC to 0.5cl jars, two jars per shoebox, 1:1 spawn to sub ratio. That's all the tricks I know for rapid growth. Temps are naturally high this time of year so that's a given.


Can you move the tubs to a cooler location when you leave? Maybe a basement or such to slow them down a wee bit?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: sprocket]
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nope. I might need to fuck around with the AC, see if I can have it to automatically turn on/off for a couple hours a day while I'm away. Not sure it's smart enough to do that though.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: gameboyhomeboy] * 2
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gameboyhomeboy said:
Would an aquarium LED be sufficient to trigger fruiting?  Also, how important is absolute darkness on the “night” time for mushrooms? I have my cultivation tubs inside some locker boxes. They are totally light proof.  Natural light isn’t an option for me where I am. 


The LED lights run very cool, And put out cool white light. Something like this:

https://www.amazon.ca/NICREW-Aquarium-Light-Extendable-Brackets/dp/B0191EWII2/ref=asc_df_B0191EWII2/?tag=googlemobshop-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=293035314673&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10116966522530247502&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001136&hvtargid=pla-313113204696&psc=1


With the light inside such a small space, I would worry about temps and drying out your tubs. I would also worry you’re not going to get enough FAE inside a box like that.

Those lights would be fine, and I would have no concerns if they were not inside with the substrate.

Mushrooms don’t need absolute darkness, in nature they grow in plenty of locales with high amounts of light pollution. I’ve grown mushrooms in flower pots on my porch when I lived in a condo. They were directly under a security light that was always on.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
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Hey guys, what do you think is the best ways to clean shoeboxes that were heavily contaminated with trich.

I just washed them outside with a hose to the bulk of things off the shoeboxes. Then I washed them with a brush/soap/hot water. I’m about to do a bleach soak in the sink. Do you guys think that will be enough or have other recommendations?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Newshroom42] * 3
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Newshroom42 said:
Hey guys, what do you think is the best ways to clean shoeboxes that were heavily contaminated with trich.

I just washed them outside with a hose to the bulk of things off the shoeboxes. Then I washed them with a brush/soap/hot water. I’m about to do a bleach soak in the sink. Do you guys think that will be enough or have other recommendations?


Warm soapy water is fine.


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