Stipe-n Cap said:

The guy claims that moar calcium = moar potent.

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I dunno what the fuck he says. The guy can talk for 40 minutes without saying anything. I used to watch him and it was extremely difficult to wade through all his word salad.
I even showed Willy to my dumbass flat-earther cousin and he became really obsessed with growing "free" mushrooms. At some point he couldn't find verm so tried replacing it with gravel

SeaSalt said:

It's probably been mentioned in this thread already but, dear Willy says Presto PC's can't sterilize grain because they have a gasket. He claims the gasket prevents the PC from reaching 15psi. Therefore, when his followers ask him why their grain is contaminated, he tells them to buy a better PC that doesn't use a gasket.
WTF? Is he really that stupid?

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Apparently…. goddamn 😂

Stipe-n Cap said:

The guy claims that moar calcium = moar potent.

I'd like to see the documented experiment that produced that result, along with the supporting hplc results....cause y'know, correlation and all that.

I'd wager there's no such documentation or experiment, which would cause me to seriously doubt any hplc results, should they even exist.

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SeaSalt said:

It's probably been mentioned in this thread already but, dear Willy says Presto PC's can't sterilize grain because they have a gasket. He claims the gasket prevents the PC from reaching 15psi. Therefore, when his followers ask him why their grain is contaminated, he tells them to buy a better PC that doesn't use a gasket.
WTF? Is he really that stupid?

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And i've read some really dumb fucking shit today. Holy Jeebus

Moshe said:

At some point he couldn't find verm so tried replacing it with gravel

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SeaSalt said:

dear Willy says Presto PC's can't sterilize grain because they have a gasket. He claims the gasket prevents the PC from reaching 15psi.

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stubb said:

Moshe said:

At some point he couldn't find verm so tried replacing it with gravel

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At least my toddler brain can follow that logic.

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-They look the same in the video, so they must have the same properties - or something, i don't know...

As long as it's keeping him out of trouble, i guess

SeaSalt said:

dear Willy says Presto PC's can't sterilize grain because they have a gasket. He claims the gasket prevents the PC from reaching 15psi.

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Fucking gaskets
How do they work?

rumfor69 said:

This whole time I thought gaskets were for sealing two surfaces together. Why do they put these worthless things under the heads in cars seems how they don't hold pressure in!?

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Shows what you know, noob

SeaSalt said:

...when his followers ask him why their grain is contaminated....

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LotKid said:

Stipe-n Cap said:

The guy claims that moar calcium = moar potent.

I'd like to see the documented experiment that produced that result, along with the supporting hplc results....cause y'know, correlation and all that.

I'd wager there's no such documentation or experiment, which would cause me to seriously doubt any hplc results, should they even exist.

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I'm with you on that.

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Just for shits and giggles I did a quick search for studies related to mushrooms and gypsum & calcium... came up with these. Paper-1 Paper-2

Granted they're using Pleurotus and not Psilocybe for the experiment, but I found the results interesting nonetheless. 

TL;DR - unless you're growing gourmet shrooms and want slightly bigger caps and slightly higher vitamin D2 levels there's no real benefit adding gypsum or some other calcium supplement - in fact levels higher than 5% run the risk of diminishing yields and at 10% or greater have a noticeable negative impact on yields.

So even outside of growing psychedelic shrooms, researchers find adding moar =/=

Stipe-n Cap said:

Yeah, that's the source of much of our problems with regards to supplementation. Noob reads about entirely separate species of fungi, applies information to cubensis.

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Stipe-n Cap said:

This is like reading a book about wild bobcats then feeding your house cat the same diet because they're both cats.

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Sure bobcats and housecats wont have exactly the same diet, but you can't deny that you're fundamentally dealing with meat eating felines in both cases and there will be some commonalities.  Just like psilocybes and pleurotus are different genera, they are both gilled mushrooms that benefit from high humidity and airflow at certain stages of their development, because... mushrooms  

Considering how people are shitting on Willy here for advocating moar gypsum = better like its common knowledge it is bad practice, and we know from these sources that for oysters at least moar =/= better I was just noting that it's interesting how sentiments/anecdotes in the hobby community and research in the academic community seemed to broadly align here...  Is this a commonality among gilled mushroom growing or a specie specific thing?  Only time will tell once we get papers exploring this same experimental setup with cubensis or some other psilocybin species.  If you know of any I'd be more than happy to read them and revise my thinking here if their data says otherwise.

Carnonos said:

Sure bobcats and housecats wont have exactly the same diet, but you can't deny that you're fundamentally dealing with meat eating felines in both cases....

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