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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 2
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If your government would've kept it's fucking nose out of Ukraine we wouldn't be arguing over this. I'm sick to death of these never ending wars, it never stops.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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Poroshenko built his army to fight Russia and asked for US defense help. It’s well documented.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 1
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mushboy said:
youre from england?

.. or further back... turkey?



USA

But something about the US selling weapons to Israel and their enemies at the same time. Gotta milk that cash cow.

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
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Stable Genius said:
If your government would've kept it's fucking nose out of Ukraine we wouldn't be arguing over this. I'm sick to death of these never ending wars, it never stops.


Putin could stop it:shrug: he won’t tho. It boils down to thinking russia is justified or somehow morally righteous. I denounce that:noway2:

Not everything is evil americas fault. Not everything is evil russias fault either but this is definitely putins fault.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 2
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When it comes down it it’s all wars of conquest. If Russia is evil then we’re all evil. This idea of their uniquely evil nature is just a fairytale we tell ourselves.

Ask yourself how you would react if Russia or China began arming Saddam Hussein in 2003.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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I’d laugh because that didn’t happen and why would they? Saddam would be a bad gamble chinas not that stupid.

Russia had armed iraq moot point. I was also like 17 I was more concerned with who had the best chronic and/or how to get laid.

Something some of y’all should be doing more of:lol:


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Edited by mushboy (07/27/22 09:45 AM)

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 3
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Wasn’t so bad a gamble for us when we needed someone to beat back communists and bomb Iran.



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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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That’s how we knew he had wmds we had the receipts.

That’s republican foreign policy for ya. Big reason to never vote for them.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 3
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Because Democrats would never make bad foreign policy decisions.



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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Well biden isn’t really a liberal imo he’s a moderate conservative.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Brian Jones said:
The Ecstatic said:
That’s a mighty assumption there. The USSR existed for 75 years, a superpower for much of that, yet didn’t rape and pillage their way across the world. This is because they never got the chance? Come on.


Does this answer your question?

Stable Genius said:
The first one that came up was Wikipedia  :shrug:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_involvement_in_regime_change

Since 1945

1944-1947: Romania
1944–1949: Xinjiang
1944–1946: Bulgaria
1944–1946: Poland
1945–1949: Hungary
1945: Germany
1945–1950: China
1945–1953: Korea
1946–1954: Philippines
1946–1949: Greece
1948: Czechoslovakia
1948–1949: Yugoslavia
1956: Hungary
1958: Lebanon
1959–1975: Laos
1961–1962: Western New Guinea
1961–1974: Angola
1961–1965: Congo-Leopoldville
1963–1974: Guinea-Bissau
1963–1967: Kenya
1963–1970: Yemen
1963–1976: Oman
1964–1974: Mozambique
1964–1989: Colombia
1965–1979: Rhodesia
1965–1983: Thailand
1966–1990: Namibia
1967–1975: Cambodia
1968–1988: Italy
1968: Czechoslovakia
1968–1989: Malaysia
1969–1991: Philippines
1969–1989: Xinjiang, China
1978: Somalia
1978–1979: Cambodia
1980–1986: Uganda



The USSR provided material support to their ideological allies, I don’t fault them for helping colonized nations to throw off their oppressors. Pick one of those nations and time periods and show me which ones the Soviets sided against the good guys.


The easy ones are Hungary 56, Czechoslovakia 68, and Poland.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 1
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mushboy said:
Well biden isn’t really a liberal imo he’s a moderate conservative.


That’s what a liberal is.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Maybe under your narrow world views I dunno man keep doin you


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy] * 1
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My worldview isn’t the one that’s narrow, it’s the opposite in fact, I’m not imagining some vast chasm of ideology between people like Joe Biden and people like Donald Rumsfeld.


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Biden being a moderate conservative doesn’t define all liberals.

Honestly I don’t see a huge difference between Biden and Rumsfeld because Biden isn’t that liberal.

Back to Ukraine and Putin being a poo poo face.
:seriousbusiness:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: Stable Genius]
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Yes, Putin bad. It’s not complicated


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods]
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Brian Jones said:
The Ecstatic said:
Brian Jones said:
The Ecstatic said:
That’s a mighty assumption there. The USSR existed for 75 years, a superpower for much of that, yet didn’t rape and pillage their way across the world. This is because they never got the chance? Come on.


Does this answer your question?

Stable Genius said:
The first one that came up was Wikipedia  :shrug:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_involvement_in_regime_change

Since 1945

1944-1947: Romania
1944–1949: Xinjiang
1944–1946: Bulgaria
1944–1946: Poland
1945–1949: Hungary
1945: Germany
1945–1950: China
1945–1953: Korea
1946–1954: Philippines
1946–1949: Greece
1948: Czechoslovakia
1948–1949: Yugoslavia
1956: Hungary
1958: Lebanon
1959–1975: Laos
1961–1962: Western New Guinea
1961–1974: Angola
1961–1965: Congo-Leopoldville
1963–1974: Guinea-Bissau
1963–1967: Kenya
1963–1970: Yemen
1963–1976: Oman
1964–1974: Mozambique
1964–1989: Colombia
1965–1979: Rhodesia
1965–1983: Thailand
1966–1990: Namibia
1967–1975: Cambodia
1968–1988: Italy
1968: Czechoslovakia
1968–1989: Malaysia
1969–1991: Philippines
1969–1989: Xinjiang, China
1978: Somalia
1978–1979: Cambodia
1980–1986: Uganda



The USSR provided material support to their ideological allies, I don’t fault them for helping colonized nations to throw off their oppressors. Pick one of those nations and time periods and show me which ones the Soviets sided against the good guys.


The easy ones are Hungary 56, Czechoslovakia 68, and Poland.


Seriously pretty much all them are them siding with the bad guys :facepalm:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Biden being a moderate conservative doesn’t define all liberals.

Honestly I don’t see a huge difference between Biden and Rumsfeld because Biden isn’t that liberal.

Back to Ukraine and Putin being a poo poo face.
:seriousbusiness:


Lol no tell that to any conservative so they can have a good laugh:facepalm:

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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: koods]
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Seems to get laughs here I guess y’all conservatives:smoker:


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Re: The Official Ukraine War Threat [Re: mushboy]
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I saw it as a slight against his long standing progressive track record. Smart liberals knew we needed someone strong on NATO and experienced in foreign relations who could actually get this countries agendas back on track worldwide rather than some blow hard queef bag.

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