Asante said:
Byrain said:
Quote: "when Delta Variant takes over, vaccinated people are 5x less likely to be symptomatically infected, 10x less likely to be hospitalized and 10x less likey to die rhan unvaccinated people."
And that you are unknowingly repeating fear mongering handed to you by some statist/corporate interest. If you want to stop the C19 pandemic then the best way to do that is stop promoting fear, social punishment, intimidation and violence. Surely you do not stand for all of those, but there are people on this site that will read your unintentional fear mongering without understanding the context and easily jump to such extremes.
My apologies if my words insulted you but that quote about the delta variant is one that explains the efficacy of the vaccine, that it indeed is quite effective against one of the most virulent strains out there.
Thats not fearmongering, that calms everybody down who's been vaccinated and for the unvaccinated well, it changes nothing for them.
So that statement is the opposite of fearmongering "research suggests that the vaccines you received reasonably hold their own against Delta"
"handed to you by some statist/corporate interest"
If you had watched the video you would have seen that this nefarious Bond villain interest group is the CDC.
The interest of the CDC is that of your Government, to not lose a trillion dollars a day because of an out of control pandemic.
Your apology would hold more weight if you understood what you are apologizing for. The person who should feel insulted is you as you have not actually said anything that applies to me, only shown how would rather erroneously assume the worst of people than spend the time to communicate and understand them. I sincerely think you have it in you to be better.
Also the societal strife of the many rarely trickles up to the privileged few, why would you think they care?
TrancedOutBrah said: Ah yes, the uno trump card statement,
"YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND"
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you and your lack of medical expertise and terrible medical advise. You'd definitely get people killed, for sure.
I have offered no medical advice, but if you really want some the best ways to protect yourself is to stay healthy, keep good hygiene and strive for a good diet. This goes for both vaccinated and unvaccinated people.
Also Trump is a selfish, petty, borderline retarded narcissist with delusions of grandeur, I have not and would never vote for him, but thanks for being predictable with the obligatory Trump accusation.
Asante said:
Byrain said: Please read this article,
Pardon me for profusely bleeding out of my eyeballs but that's an article from 2011.
People call it horse dewormer because very many people are taking veterinary Ivermectin in veterinary doses and more than a few get poisoned.
The actual number of people using the human medicine in human doses is very small, and the ones doing so on a doctors prescription in the US is much smaller than that.
Regardless if ivermectin does or does not work for reducing the severity of the C19 pandemic calling it a horse dewormer is intellectually insincere. Its has legitimately saved many people from horrible diseases like river blindness in Africa. Countries that are now coincidentally largely free from a large influx of severe C19 cases. I can't say this is why, but its entirely worth investigating it as quickly as possible. Fauci personally knew about this possibility since 2020 as revealed in the e-mail dump and yet next to nothing has been done locally to investigate it other than stigmatize it as "Stupid people eating horse dewormer".
feevers said:
Byrain said: If you want to stop the C19 pandemic then the best way to do that is stop promoting fear, social punishment, intimidation and violence.
Talking about statistics is not "promoting fear". Mandates are not punishments. Very few people on the rational pro-vax side are doing anything 'intimidating', just like the bulk of anti-vaxxers aren't attacking hostesses and protesting/harassing healthcare workers... there are outliers in every group.
I never said talking about statistics is promoting fear, willfully misrepresenting statistics to falsely imply levels of danger as was done in the article that Asante (Even if indirectly) pulled the figure from is fear mongering (I read it too).
feevers said: Your argument seems to boil down to "just ignore it and it'll go away", which has been proven over and over again to not work.
You just made this up. Even Sweden did more than "just ignore it and it'll go away" and now their total death curve is nearly flat while the rest of the world is falling apart.
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