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Metoo
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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958200 - 09/28/20 12:46 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

This IS big

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/27/politics/brad-parscale-hospitalized/index.html

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958201 - 09/28/20 12:55 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Parscale went from rags to riches during his tenure as campaign manager. He’s a grifter like trump and the world is finally getting a good look at the grift. People in trumps orbit who have been playing fast and loose with donors money are probably pretty stressed out. They got bannon. They have to be looking at Parscale.

The daily mail claims he’s under investigation for embezzlement. On one hand the daily mail isn’t the most reliable source. On the other hand, most of trumps campaign managers end up being indicted.

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958211 - 09/28/20 01:19 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Here’s an 81 page complaint filed with the FEC detailing $170 million in campaign funds being funneled through private companies owned by Parscale and other campaign officials. https://campaignlegal.org/sites/default/files/2020-07/07-27-20%20Trump%20AMMC%20%28final%29.pdf

Sometimes it’s hard to believe the scale of the corruption in this administration.

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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (09/28/20 01:20 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958225 - 09/28/20 01:44 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

koods said:

There was plenty of back and forth. I explained why you’re wrong. Enlil agreed. You’re either lying about this or you have poor reading comprehension. Anyone is free to click your link and read the conversation that follows. You really should be ashamed of the way you comport yourself in these threads. It’s one thing to make a mistake, but you will continue to push a proven false narrative even after being called out multiple times.

It wasn't "debunked", it was simply not 100% certain if the Top Secret information included Seth Rich.

However, I then showed that FBI affidavits lied about having no records on Seth Rich (when in fact, they had heavily redacted information on him). You then claimed the affidavits didn't say that, but I showed they did. That pretty much ended the discussion.

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958234 - 09/28/20 02:03 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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it was simply not 100% certain if the Top Secret information included Seth Rich.

No you’re wrong and you’re also misrepresenting your original claim that there were definitely top secret files on Rich. If you read the letter carefully you would understand that you can make absolutely no claims about the subject of the top secret documents. The FOIA request cast far too broad a net to be able to determine which terms had associated top secret files

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958247 - 09/28/20 02:43 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve had Fox News on for 45 minutes and not a single mention of the fact that the president hasn’t made any money in a decade and is deeply in debt, and his claims of being rich were false.

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958266 - 09/28/20 03:25 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

It's certainly made all the news bulletins here this afternoon/evening... coupled with different quotes of Trump talking things up or calling the story fake news, depending on the news channel. :puke:

:puke:

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958269 - 09/28/20 03:34 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

One journo commented that from a security point of view, having a president so debt ridden is a definite risk.
I assume he meant open to manipulation, coercion, etc?

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958282 - 09/28/20 04:08 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Buried deep in the story is about some of the licensing deals he’s arranged in places where we’ve had some surprising policy decisions, like turkey, where trump has shown erdogan a lot of leeway and kinda handed Syria over to. His most profitable deals are in some pretty sketchy parts of the world.

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958287 - 09/28/20 04:28 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

koods said:

Quote:

it was simply not 100% certain if the Top Secret information included Seth Rich.

No you’re wrong...

I don't understand. Are you saying you are 100% certain that the 32 pages of Top Secret information on "All correspondence received from or sent to any member of Congress (or anyone representing a member of Congress or Congressional committee) regarding Seth Rich, Julian Assange, Wikileaks, Kim Dotcom, Aaron Rich, Shawn Lucas, Kelsey Mulka, Imran Awan, Abid Awan, Jamal Awan, Hina Alvi, and/or Rao Abbas" did not include anything on Seth Rich???

koods said:

If you read the letter carefully you would understand that you can make absolutely no claims about the subject of the top secret documents.

Agreed. And that's why I said "It wasn't "debunked", it was simply not 100% certain if the Top Secret information included Seth Rich."

Do you not understand the difference between debunking something and not being certain about it?

But we are certain "that FBI affidavits lied about having no records on Seth Rich (when in fact, they had heavily redacted information on him)."

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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (09/28/20 04:58 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958292 - 09/28/20 04:32 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

koods said:

Buried deep in the story is about some of the licensing deals he’s arranged in places where we’ve had some surprising policy decisions, like turkey, where trump has shown erdogan a lot of leeway and kinda handed Syria over to.

What do you mean "kinda handed Syria over to"? Is Turkey now controlling Syria? :wtf:

:wtf:

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958296 - 09/28/20 04:39 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

:chump:

. . .

:peace:

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958299 - 09/28/20 04:47 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

:grin:

:peace:

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958312 - 09/28/20 05:02 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:

ready for the Trump rally vinsue? :thumbup:

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958320 - 09/28/20 05:19 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

If the FBI say it has evidence the GRU hacked the emails there'd be no reason to offer Assange a pardon?
Like asking for a statement/deposition is one thing, offering a pardon to make espionage charges disappear is another.
But Assange can't reveal his source, rule number 1.
But he clearly intimated go look at Seth Rich
:doublefacepalm:

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958325 - 09/28/20 05:28 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Correct. And that's why I said "It wasn't "debunked", it was simply not 100% certain if the Top Secret information included Seth Rich."

Do you understand the difference between debunking something and not being certain about it?

You claimed they had top secret documents on rich. That’s what I debunked. That claim is totally unsupportable. There are a dozen people and entities on the list and there’s absolutely no reason to suspect that the documents concern Rich. You cannot make any claims about percent likelyhood they are refering to Rich. I know you’re not stupid so why do you keep making stupid claims?

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958329 - 09/28/20 05:33 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Stable Genius said:

If the FBI say it has evidence the GRU hacked the emails there'd be no reason to offer Assange a pardon?
Like asking for a statement/deposition is one thing, offering a pardon to make espionage charges disappear is another.
But Assange can't reveal his source, rule number 1.
But he clearly intimated go look at Seth Rich

If Seth Rich was the source then intimating it would be a pretty clear violation of rule number 1. If you’re interested in keeping someone’s identity secret, bringing up his name at all in a unsolicited manner like that is pretty stupid.

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958337 - 09/28/20 05:47 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Falcon, you continue to get the agency issuing that letter wrong as well. It’s from the NSA.

We can infer that whatever entity they have the secret files on is almost certainly located outside the US and not a US person. Rich and congress are both US persons operating within the US and therefore their communications would be outside the legal scope of NSA operations.

Therefore, not only is there no reason to believe Rich is the subject, there are compelling reasons why it’s not rich.

Have you ever played the game mastermind? It might be a good exercise to help you recognize what information is useful and what information isn’t, because your reasoning skills are pretty awful.

Edited by koods (09/28/20 05:54 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020

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#26958373 - 09/28/20 06:23 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Stable Genius said:

One journo commented that from a security point of view, having a president so debt ridden is a definite risk.
I assume he meant open to manipulation, coercion, etc?

According to wikipedia, he has a partial stake in a $950m loan from Bank of China and Deutsche Bank. Further, Trump Tower (of which he only owns 30%) was refinanced through Bank of China in 2012, and the loans are coming due in 2022, so Trump will owe the (state owned) Bank of China 30% of the $211m they loaned him. Sources in wikipedia "wealth of donald trump". Link's are annoying on mobile.

So, flat broke, owing tens of millions in loans to a foreign government entity, yeah, I'd rather be president in that situation. I'm sure I could afford a lawyer, but an entire Department of Justice and a standing army to back it up?

Edit: Trump has a bad habit of personally guaranteeing his loans. I'm sure it sounds good at some low level negotiation, if the guy across the table doesn't know that the word Trump now means "great windbag" (I guess UK slang was really ahead of the curve there), but there's a reason LLCs exist. Personally guaranteeing business loans is a terrible idea, unless you have the disposable cash on hand to repay the whole loan.

Edited by Kryptos (09/28/20 06:32 AM)

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#26958388 - 09/28/20 06:50 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

And this is just the tip of the iceberg on Trump's financials. This going to be so satisfying, watching his whole world unravel. I think he's so wigged out now, he's going to lose the debate. He's demanding that Biden be drug tested before the debate.

Which one is more senile? At a campaign rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday, Trump blasted the fake news for never reporting on his two Nobel Peace Prizes. The week before he claimed to have won the Bay of Pigs Award. What's worse, claiming to have won this award that doesn't exist, or claiming to have won an award named after the Bay of Pigs, which was clearly one of the most stunning failures in U.S. history?

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