feldman114 said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

feevers said:

I'm voting Bernie in the general regardless of if he's the nominee or not.

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I'll join you. 

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Hear, hear!

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Shenmue said:

cannabinated said:

biden is king of the boomers

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I can't believe people actually like Joe. If he becomes president I have no hope for humanity. He said he's going to automatically choose a female vice president instead of choosing the most qualified person for the job. He said he's coming for everyone's rifles and when a union worker asked him about it he told him he was full of shit and bullied the guy. He says he's automatically going to let illegal immigrants stay in the United states which is fucking ridiculous. He's completely full of shit! The Democrats call Donald Trump a liar and then they choose an even bigger liar to replace him. Out of all those candidates you pick joe Biden! Are you people insane?

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Tantrika said:

Can complain that Bernie has been too soft,
and should have run third party right from the start
since it is not like running for the DNC did shit to really gain him more publicity

the US system sucks,
but think the most pertinent concern
is whether that old Supreme Court lady or whatever will die
the one that alt-righters make the weirdo grim reaper pepe memes of
do not think Biden would make a significantly better replacement selection than Trump
but he may at least select someone more moderate



am Canadian and voted Green last election and ended up with Trudea in
leadership, again

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Ran-D said:

I'm still rockin with Vermin Supreme.

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Bigbadwooof said:

Tantrika said:

Can complain that Bernie has been too soft,
and should have run third party right from the start
since it is not like running for the DNC did shit to really gain him more publicity

the US system sucks,
but think the most pertinent concern
is whether that old Supreme Court lady or whatever will die
the one that alt-righters make the weirdo grim reaper pepe memes of
do not think Biden would make a significantly better replacement selection than Trump
but he may at least select someone more moderate



am Canadian and voted Green last election and ended up with Trudea in
leadership, again

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In America, we basically have to throw a few election cycles to implement a 3rd party. At least that's the way it seems, in my mind. A guy like Bernie might be able to swing it in one go, I don't know. The problem here, is that you have to get everyone to jump ship all at once.

Your thoughts about the Supreme court are exactly mine. It is literally the only reason I would vote for Biden, but I don't really expect Biden to make a choice much better than Kavanaugh.

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Tantrika said:

Bigbadwooof said:

Tantrika said:

Can complain that Bernie has been too soft,
and should have run third party right from the start
since it is not like running for the DNC did shit to really gain him more publicity

the US system sucks,
but think the most pertinent concern
is whether that old Supreme Court lady or whatever will die
the one that alt-righters make the weirdo grim reaper pepe memes of
do not think Biden would make a significantly better replacement selection than Trump
but he may at least select someone more moderate



am Canadian and voted Green last election and ended up with Trudea in
leadership, again

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In America, we basically have to throw a few election cycles to implement a 3rd party. At least that's the way it seems, in my mind. A guy like Bernie might be able to swing it in one go, I don't know. The problem here, is that you have to get everyone to jump ship all at once.

Your thoughts about the Supreme court are exactly mine. It is literally the only reason I would vote for Biden, but I don't really expect Biden to make a choice much better than Kavanaugh.

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Yeah, comprehend and respect that it's not as easy as "just" voting third party in the US
but it is also frustrating to reflect on the fact that Bernie spent 2 election cycles trying to move into the space of the two party system
only to have the party he was supporting not support him

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Bigbadwooof said:

The real shit of it is that American politics are world politics in a lot of ways. America puts pressure on other countries to do things our way. Like drug policy. Our election has an impact far beyond our boarders.

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Yes. It makes voters feel helpless. Nobody wants Biden. He's a terrible candidate that has been thrust upon us.

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Stable Genius said:

Bigbadwooof said:

The real shit of it is that American politics are world politics in a lot of ways. America puts pressure on other countries to do things our way. Like drug policy. Our election has an impact far beyond our boarders.

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+1 add armed conflicts.

If you had a 3rd party, could a prez still be voted in with less than 50% of the popular vote? Just wondering as we end up with coalition government all the time, however we don't elect Kings whoops sorry presidents separately.
This executive privilege, over-ruling the courts, is something I don't see as helpful to an independent justice system. Just saying.

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koods said:

Dude, the popular vote isn’t even close. The fact is a lot more people want Biden than sanders. If you mean, most of those people wanted someone other than Biden, then maybe but that’s how this shit works. Sanders failed to interest anyone who didn’t already support him, probably because his supporters are totally insufferable.

There’s also the fact - not really addressed directly very often - that Americans are not inclined to support someone who describes themselves as a socialist.

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Spoken like a guy who repeats exactly what the New York Times tells him to say. 

koods said:

That’s right Wyoming would get as much say as California. You thought the electoral college was bad.

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