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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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More from the New York Times as the democrats freeze the count at 62% for as long as they possibly can:

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Matt Stevens, with Buttigieg in Laconia, N.H. 5:50 PM ET

Buttigieg: “They’re not complete, but results are in from a majority of precincts and they show our campaign in first place.” Crowd: “President Pete!”



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Lisa Lerer, in Washington 5:57 PM ET

We can see why Buttigieg was eager to declare victory last night. Iowa is all about momentum. These early results give him a shot at catching a wave.



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Maggie Haberman, in New York 6:10 PM ET

The Trump campaign is viewing the partial results from Iowa cautiously, seeing Buttigieg as a potentially difficult opponent with crossover appeal.



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Nate Cohn, in New York 6:21 PM ET

Over all, I see no reason to think that Sanders will definitely come back when the remaining results are in. But he could.



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Nate Cohn, in New York 6:31 PM ET

Sanders is close enough, and the delegate situation noisy enough, that I don’t think you’ll see race calls from news outlets based on results so far.



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Jennifer Medina, reporting from Compton, Calif. 54m ago

A reminder as we all analyze 62% of about 250,000 votes: About 15 million voters in California now have their ballots.



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Astead Herndon, reporting from Manchester, N.H. 49m ago

Some of Buttigieg's strengths are things the young left abhor — talk of unity, invoking military, etc. His campaign is confident enough to not care.




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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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SirTripAlot said:
What exactly does the DNC/Dem party do for Bernie? If he left, is there funding, debates, etc that he would miss out on? Why doesnt he just go?



You know, I used to think that way too, particularly in 2016. All of the tomfuckery last election helped me to understand how all of this works a whole lot better.

The Democratic party has a LOT to offer, and there are very good reasons to run as a Democrat. Like it or not, our system is a two party system. You may see a 3rd party rise (and fall just as quickly) every so often, but in the end, there will always be only two parties, though the Republican party replaced the Tori part, I believe, and sometimes overthrows can happen, as was attempted by the Tea Party.

The Democratic party offers a large base of voter research knowledge, and they provide candidates with funding, a platform (ie debate platform), media coverage, and a network of established politicians and donors (in theory) to back you up.

You have to run as either a Democrat, or a Republican to win, though certain oddball election cycles, and events could pave the way for a potential, one-off independent win. Bernie could be successful in this way, if he ran 3rd party.


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Every one of you should see this video.


Edited by Bigbadwooof (02/04/20 06:04 PM)

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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parties can die and be replaced.  It happens every so often.  Whigs are long gone, as an example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States#History_and_early_political_parties

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
parties can die and be replaced.  It happens every so often.  Whigs are long gone, as an example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States#History_and_early_political_parties



I was thinking of Whigs. Apparently, Tories we British loyalists, after the Revolutionary war. I thought there was a Tory party, here in the US.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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the Whigs

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party
https://www.britannica.com/event/Anti-Masonic-Movement

its always bothered me that this little bit was somehow left out of the american public school social studies curriculum
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It was the first American third party, the first political party to hold a national nominating convention, and the first to offer the electorate a platform of party principles.



should make a "Where's Willy?" waldo type book where you have to search through all the sacred geometry to find him

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morgan_(anti-Mason)

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
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If this DNC is fucked, I would be 100% for a 3rd party - as I was last election :lol: Albeit - I did not need to vote for hillary for her to win my state.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: twighead] * 1
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hah they have "new results" but not all the results, why even bother releasing them? oh I know..pete is in the lead

CNN talking about how even if pete comes in 2nd it's still such a huge win for him

pete, pete, petee

:nonono:


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
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Why won't any of the mainstream outlets publish the popular vote anymore?  Because that shows Bernie with more votes?

PS - If anyone finds a site that includes the popular vote, please share it.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Stable Genius said:
Yep. Labor found out the hard way, the public don't like radical ideas, even if they are good ones.



People voted against Labour because they didnt like the leadership, probably because the media smeared him as an antisemite. If you look at the exit polls there were plenty of people who liked the policies.

Bernie's policy platform is all favored by a majority of US voters. Not just Democrats, voters in general. But of course the media and party establishment figures will still fearmonger about the mythical " moderate voter" who will be turned off by that platform, simply because they dont want to lose their strangehold on the party or see their own taxes go up.




Yes Shorten was unpopular but Labor lost the election because they had 'bold' policies, the LNP had nothing startling policy wise, all Morrison had to do was parrot Labor's idea's, add some fear and hey presto they won by a landslide.

I was going to say I'd be looking at Iowa as an indication of how radical the voters think Bernie's policies are.
The higher the vote for Buttigieg = the amount moderate voters are turned off by Bernie's policies.
And he polled high. Ding dong ding hello?

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Why won't any of the mainstream outlets publish the popular vote anymore?  Because that shows Bernie with more votes?

PS - If anyone finds a site that includes the popular vote, please share it.



Jimmy Dore said that the DNC was taking over vote counting... Don't they always count the votes?


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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some lady on CNN just announced pete won the iowa caucus

"it's a historic moment that pete, an openly gay man, won the iowa caucus"


but only 70% of the votes are in

:rofl:

edit: I forgot the gay part, kinda makes the statement that much more...wow...


Edited by sh4d0ws (02/04/20 11:24 PM)

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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
Jimmy Dore said that the DNC was taking over vote counting... Don't they always count the votes?



I don't know.  ABC news says "One Democratic official is being told that the DNC is "taking over" the accounting. The official said that to their knowledge, this has never happened before."


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
The Ecstatic said:
But yeah they’re gonna leave this 62% out there for a few days to give Pete a bunch of good press...



If they don't release the final count soon today, can we all agree they tried to cheat with a partial release?



They're still hiding the full results.  The DNC is now clearly doing this intentionally.  Here's more proof:



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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 6
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:bathtub40lol:


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
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sh4d0ws said:


:bathtub40lol:



Your username could not be more appropriate lmao!


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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wowzers

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/02/iowa-caucus-app-tech/606094/

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Shadow incorporated only in September, meaning that a crucial piece of the Iowa caucus was in the hands of a company that was technically five months old.




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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: sh4d0ws]
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This is two overlapping maps. The dots are the counties missing data right now with the size being related to how much is missing.

The colors are the different candidates polling from last week, notably blue being Sanders color.



https://twitter.com/mugrimm/status/1224829617002905602



surprise..the remaining votes are largely from the counties where Bernie was high in the polls..must be a coincidence right

:buzzaldrin:


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
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Of course it's just a coincidence.  Right koods?


A lot of us here predicted the shenanigans that would take place, but I never dreamt it would be so obvious.

Even if there was a glitch in the beginning, holding back the results for so long in the Bernie areas just makes this ridiculously clear.


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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Re: Sanders - Woooflestiltskin 2020 [Re: sh4d0ws]
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The whole point of a caucus is to exploit peer pressure

Iowa doesn’t want this

I have a feeling Epstein is behind this shadow Corp election fuckery prolly a buncha kid fuckers

buttigieg too

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