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Re: unknown pans [Re: Anglerfish]
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Wow! I would like to own a culture like those pans. Great find!


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Mr. Alien]
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Thread of the year?

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Re: unknown pans [Re: n0bel]
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I think it's fitting for Psilocybe cubensis to be named after Cuba since cattle arrived in Cuba before North America, but they probably originated in Africa or (Sub)Tropical Asia, so if geography is to be used maybe cubes should be called Psilocybe asiaticii or Psilocybe  africana.

I admit that I like the name Panaeolus zifozonke.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

Edited by Doc9151 (12/18/19 07:29 PM)

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Doc9151]
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So how can I get some of these panaleous zifozonke spores? For scientific research of course.


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Anglerfish said:
Aendir said:
Will you get to name it ?! :smile:


It's not that simple. Species names are usually based upon the identifying features of the species, or the type locality - in
this instance Kwazulu Natal - if this is in fact a new species, and this find becomes the type collection identifying the species.
Sometimes species are named after people, usually in honour of achievement within a relevant scientific area such as
mycology. It is the person(s) responsible for the published description that also gets to name the new species.

Good examples of naming by describing features are Psilocybe semilanceata and Pholiota velaglutinosa.

Psilocybe cubensis exemplifies naming after type locality, and Tricholoma guldeniae in honour of significant
achievement in the field of mycology.


Alan Rockefeller said:
It's usually not a good idea to name a mushroom after a place, as it is later always found somewhere else.    Many people name mushrooms after their girlfriends, but they are usually broken up before the name gets published.

A good name is one that still has meaning a hundred thousand years later - referring to a feature that distinguishes it from its closest relatives.


Thank you for the explanations !


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Re: unknown pans [Re: CaliStudentGrower]
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Anglerfish said:
Thinking of it - what would be a suitable standout feature of that species to give it a proper scientific name?


Psilocybe coprophila, Psilocybe annulata, Psilocybe aureoannulata or Psilocybe coproannulata would be reasonable names for P. cubensis.


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Any examples of this?



Mycena perlae

CaliStudentGrower said:
Noobie question... If you find a mushroom is there somewhere that you can send a piece of it to have them test it and give you a breakdown? The same way they send weed strains out?


https://energycontrol-international.org

They charge 70 euros for a full chemical analysis including purity.

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Thank You, this is exactly what I'm looking for. Now I just need to find one in the US (if they have one)

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Re: unknown pans [Re: n0bel]
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n0bel said:
Thread of the year?


:poast::feelingfunky:


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
Many people name mushrooms after their girlfriends, but they are usually broken up before the name gets published.


Anglerfish said:Any examples of this?



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Alan Rockefeller said:
Mycena perlae



MycoBank  said:
Summary: Mycena perlae Cortés-Pérez, Desjardin & Rockefeller, Mycologia 111 (2): 334 (2019) [MB#822909]


I assume it wasn't you who named this then... or...? :biggrin:

Edited by Anglerfish (12/19/19 05:16 PM)

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Anglerfish]
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OP, don't forget to collect specimens at all stages of development that you possibly can and make photographic records of those collections while they're fresh.  Do so preferably with a ruler in the photos.

Congrats on your beautiful and rare find.

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Re: unknown pans [Re: relic]
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Ive been looking .....dont worry...If they come again Ill certainly snap some shots and update you all.

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke] * 1
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So a small update as promised.... a few fruits have popped up again after some light rains.
One solitary fruit

With a close up

And a couple that something has been munching on....:sad:


5meters or so beyond these fruits...

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke]
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I love the fact that it doesn't need manure to grow and is very similar to Pan Cyan. It probably would grow fine with a straw substrate?


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Mr. Alien]
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This looks very similar to what Guzman described as Panaeolus chlorocystis, I think Alan is spot on. Can't wait to see what happens,  hopefully specimens have been sent for study.


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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke]
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Zifozonke said:
So a small update as promised.... a few fruits have popped up again after some light rains.
One solitary fruit



That's one pretty mushroom right there.

Very nice find again, can't wait to hear what these actually are.


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Anglerfish] * 1
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Rain and humidty has bought some fruits again
Took a walk to beach spot and dotted along the path here and there-were fruits-amongst some rotting bougainvillea leaves and sticks.

A bit further along spotted this real beauty-few cracks in cap but was green/blue-really pretty

Got to place where I originally found them and...

Headed back up path to road and spotted this one loner

If it was growing in dung - I would have said it was a P.cyan
Almost snow white cap-but this one is very much out in open-not like the others in the wet undergrowth
Just picked these few fruits for some pics and prints.

There were many fruits I just left-no doubt they are established and really happy to be in this zone.

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke] * 1
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Will you please try to get  good habitat shots that show the broader area without giving away your spot? Myself and many others would greatly appreciate it.


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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Doc9151]
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I'm going to go with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_caerulipes


You know blue foots are pretty rare and I heard from a friend that they grow in west virgina but I am unsure fully of the past. I can't wait to start hunting mushrooms again and can I get a TI badge pronto... You know, I only post when I know.

I looked at these and thought panaeolus but my mind navigated through a bunch of mushrooms when I looked at this. I love the internet and how I can look at the fungus all the time. But make sure to tell location because I need to know where all my fungal friends are and where they grew with temperature gradients. It would be nice if the government would supply me with that... It would be great!!

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Re: unknown pans [Re: santa mose]
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santa mose said:
I'm going to go with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_caerulipes


You know blue foots are pretty rare and I heard from a friend that they grow in west virgina but I am unsure fully of the past. I can't wait to start hunting mushrooms again and can I get a TI badge pronto... You know, I only post when I know.

I looked at these and thought panaeolus but my mind navigated through a bunch of mushrooms when I looked at this. I love the internet and how I can look at the fungus all the time. But make sure to tell location because I need to know where all my fungal friends are and where they grew with temperature gradients. It would be nice if the government would supply me with that... It would be great!!



Psilocybe caerulipes has a different cap color, different cap shape, different cap texture, different stem texture, different gill color and different substrate, and doesn't occur in Africa.

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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not sure, are you going to be doing your DNA sequencing forever or are you gonna get back to the times...

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