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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke]
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Awesome find!  Alan’s probably booking a flight to South Africa as we speak πŸ˜‚

I’d still take habitat shots even if there’s no more fruits.  Would be interesting to see what species of trees they like.

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Re: unknown pans [Re: sy0352] * 4
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So heres some habitat pics for you all from yesterdays discovery...


And some close ups of the piles and the different leaves they are made up of ......

Had a good look round....found none the same as yesterday-but found these...




Was a bit bummed so I decided to take a look at another spot not to far away thats always damp ...

And...after searching around abit..
Jackpot again!!

These fruits are a little older-but I can clearly see they are the same.

This time growing on a mix of decomposing bark/leaves/soil.

With loads of little pins here and there..

Just left the smaller pins.





Edited by Zifozonke (12/16/19 04:47 AM)

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke]
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Again, wow!

The first ones look like maybe Marasmius or Gymnopus, can't really tell when they're that dry.

The Panaeolus species looks slightly different from your previous ones, in that they're obviously
strongly hygrophanous, where the others looked more even in colors.

Far from an expert on subgenus Copelandia but reading Gerhardts descriptions of the more rare
species, these new ones could match P. affinis or P. lentisporus macroscopically, and the forest
habitat is a match as well. I reckon there are no herbivores grazing in the near vicinity?

I assume you collected these new ones as well?

This thread is awesome. :super:


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Anglerfish]
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:popcorn:


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke]
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Amazing find  :congrats:  :congrats:  :congrats:


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke]
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Zifozonke said:
Thank you all for the warming responses!!
These I collected here in kwazulu Natal-South Africa-basically on a pile of leaves that had been piled up on a path leading towards beach.
Im heading back there tomorrow with camera-&hopefully with a bit of luck-and some more looking around-Ill find some more...
Got more rain on its way...
Prints are being taken..and samples are going to be sent...


Glad to hear that you are preserving specimens for future studies, they will be something special for sure, either new to science or something not seen in a long time. Super excited to follow this thread. :cheers:


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Doc9151]
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Woah that is really cool it reminds me of a non-active species out in the field that have those lines on the cap and same coloration.  Not with the bluing like yours though very cool.  Or maybe I have seen a very miniature version?  I saw some very tiny mushrooms that looked something like that but didn’t see them as actives.


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Rangiku]
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Exciting stuff

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Hamra] * 1
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Prints....Done in SAB.
Jet black as expected from a Pan. Species.

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke]
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:threadmonitor:


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Zifozonke]
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Nice fat prints. Next on your to-do list: cook up some agar plates. :cool::hehehe:

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Anglerfish]
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Good job Zifozonke !!

Will you get to name it ?! :smile:

Finding a new species is now in my To Do before I die :wink:


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Aendir] * 1
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"Panaeolus zifozonke" just sounds good doesn't it?


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Asura]
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Awesome!

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Re: unknown pans [Re: High Night Expanse] * 1
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Aendir said:
Will you get to name it ?! :smile:


It's not that simple. Species names are usually based upon the identifying features of the species, or the type locality - in
this instance Kwazulu Natal - if this is in fact a new species, and this find becomes the type collection identifying the species.
Sometimes species are named after people, usually in honour of achievement within a relevant scientific area such as
mycology. It is the person(s) responsible for the published description that also gets to name the new species.

Good examples of naming by describing features are Psilocybe semilanceata and Pholiota velaglutinosa.

Psilocybe cubensis exemplifies naming after type locality, and Tricholoma guldeniae in honour of significant
achievement in the field of mycology.


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Re: unknown pans [Re: Anglerfish] * 3
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It's usually not a good idea to name a mushroom after a place, as it is later always found somewhere else.    Many people name mushrooms after their girlfriends, but they are usually broken up before the name gets published.

A good name is one that still has meaning a hundred thousand years later - referring to a feature that distinguishes it from its closest relatives.

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Many people name mushrooms after their girlfriends, but they are usually broken up before the name gets published.



I tried to imagine that thought process... It seems so cringe it could only lead to bad luck! Yes I shall name this likely phallus shaped organism - so cute - after my sweetheart to whom it bears a uncanny resemblance, and occupies a similar space in my heart.  :facepalm:

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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That is very, very cool. You are definitely living right Zifozonke to be so fortunate!

Edited by fuktardles (11/04/22 12:42 AM)

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Re: unknown pans [Re: fuktardles]
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Noobie question... If you find a mushroom is there somewhere that you can send a piece of it to have them test it and give you a breakdown? The same way they send weed strains out?

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Re: unknown pans [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
It's usually not a good idea to name a mushroom after a place, as it is later always found somewhere else.

 

My thought as well, and P. cubensis is a good example. Might as well call it P. closetensis since it's probably even more common in
people's closets than in Cuba. Thinking of it - what would be a suitable standout feature of that species to give it a proper scientific name?

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Many people name mushrooms after their girlfriends, but they are usually broken up before the name gets published.


Any examples of this?

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A good name is one that still has meaning a hundred thousand years later - referring to a feature that distinguishes it from its closest relatives.


As for instance P. semilanceata does, and Psathyrella aquatica (until someone perhaps starts finding it on dry land).


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