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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: relic]
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relic said:
In all my time as a kitchen manager, I had exactly one employee that spoke no English when I hired him.  Pedro was in his early 50's, walked the ~5 miles to and from work every day, and within six mos of me hiring him spoke English well enough to translate for a couple of the bus boys i later hired. 

Motherfucker never once complained about any single thing, task, duty, or shift and was so GD grateful if I let him take half a semi-stale loaf of French bread or a tuna steak that was on its third day thawed home to his wife. 

Many times I wished I had five Pedros instead of any ten mikes, johns, Charlies, carls, etc. when I was a KM.



Fuck yeah. People who come here for economic reasons are motivated and hard working. They don’t take anything for granted and aren’t spoiled little shits like your average American.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: MagicMush123]
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MagicMush123 said:
koods said:
MagicMush123 said:
So let me get this straight, you feel that white Americans should be able to speak Spanish in order to communicate with other "Americans" yet you also feel that if you live in the United states you shouldn't need subtitles for other Americans can better understand you? Wtf kind of logic is that?



I feel that Americans should speak English and at least one other language. Spanish would be most useful.

I feel that people who are native English speakers and grew up in the United States should be able to communicate without needing to be subtitled. Don’t you think that speaking in an unintelligible manner is going to be a huge handicap in life?



Yea for sure no one is against people being bilingual... but you know whats great about America? Its so huge and diverse that the cultures and people change significantly by region. The people in Florida sound differently than the people in new York, etc. Maybe you should reap what you sow and respect different cultures, peoples and ways of life  :shrug:



I’m not talking about accents. I’m talking about people who are essentially illiterate. They can’t conjugate verbs. The don’t know proper English syntax. These are people who stopped formal education when they were children.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods] * 2
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koods said:
relic said:
In all my time as a kitchen manager, I had exactly one employee that spoke no English when I hired him.  Pedro was in his early 50's, walked the ~5 miles to and from work every day, and within six mos of me hiring him spoke English well enough to translate for a couple of the bus boys i later hired. 

Motherfucker never once complained about any single thing, task, duty, or shift and was so GD grateful if I let him take half a semi-stale loaf of French bread or a tuna steak that was on its third day thawed home to his wife. 

Many times I wished I had five Pedros instead of any ten mikes, johns, Charlies, carls, etc. when I was a KM.



Fuck yeah. People who come here for economic reasons are motivated and hard working. They don’t take anything for granted and aren’t spoiled little shits like your average American.



70% of long term illegal aliens[10+ years] are on at least one form of welfare. they work hard to collect your hard earned money. the average usage of welfare by native born citizens is around 35%. ive shown this statistic to you repeatedly.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
I’m not talking about accents. I’m talking about people who are essentially illiterate. They can’t conjugate verbs. The don’t know proper English syntax.




McKeesport, Pennsylvania.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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you have to apply for welfare. they dont just close thier eyes and hand it out to first come first serve. show me evidence of UNDOCUMENTED peoples using welfare programs.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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and having a social security number is prerequisite of using any gov't programs

especially in this post-911 era. maybe in the 70s and 80s it was still possible to get food stamps without any papers, idk.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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Social Security numbers cost about $800. All the illegals I ever worked with had SS #'s and driver's licenses.

Every so often the states change up whether they give their driver's license test in Spanish and they'd all get those.

Several years ago it was Tennessee. I'm not sure which one they use currently.

One kid I worked with had a Mexican driver's license saying he was 16 or 17 I can't remember but he fucked up when he showed that one to us.
He also had a Tennessee driver's license in another name saying he was 25 so he could get cheaper car insurance, lol.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: mycosis] * 1
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in ca they are handing out drivers licenses, free healthcare to "low income" (illegals aka work under the table) to 19-25 year olds. its gonna cost at least 100 million/year for an estimated 90,000 haha that number is VERRRRRRY low. there are millions in ca alone in that demographic age range. the US is expecting 1.5 million people to come across the border at the current rates.

63% of long term illegal aliens are on at least one form of welfare


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: JHOVA]
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all the illegals I know speak perfect English and wave American flags while saving golden retriever puppies from burning buildings


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
koods said:
relic said:
In all my time as a kitchen manager, I had exactly one employee that spoke no English when I hired him.  Pedro was in his early 50's, walked the ~5 miles to and from work every day, and within six mos of me hiring him spoke English well enough to translate for a couple of the bus boys i later hired. 

Motherfucker never once complained about any single thing, task, duty, or shift and was so GD grateful if I let him take half a semi-stale loaf of French bread or a tuna steak that was on its third day thawed home to his wife. 

Many times I wished I had five Pedros instead of any ten mikes, johns, Charlies, carls, etc. when I was a KM.



Fuck yeah. People who come here for economic reasons are motivated and hard working. They don’t take anything for granted and aren’t spoiled little shits like your average American.



70% of long term illegal aliens[10+ years] are on at least one form of welfare. they work hard to collect your hard earned money. the average usage of welfare by native born citizens is around 35%. ive shown this statistic to you repeatedly.



Source? You’ve shown an article that says 70% of immigrants have used some form of government assistance program at some point. That data included home loan programs as well. I don’t think it addressed illegal undocumented aliens.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (06/11/19 11:32 PM)

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
in ca they are handing out drivers licenses, free healthcare to "low income" (illegals aka work under the table) to 19-25 year olds. its gonna cost at least 100 million/year for an estimated 90,000 haha that number is VERRRRRRY low. there are millions in ca alone in that demographic age range. the US is expecting 1.5 million people to come across the border at the current rates.

63% of long term illegal aliens are on at least one form of welfare



Why do you continually misrepresent these reports as being about illegals?


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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blue text is a link if you were unaware lol. you can hover over blue text and the website address pops up at the bottom left of your screen or monitor.

from center for immigration studies
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Of non-citizens in Census Bureau data, roughly half are in the country illegally. Non-citizens also include long-term temporary visitors (e.g. guestworkers and foreign students) and permanent residents who have not naturalized (green card holders). Despite the fact that there are barriers designed to prevent welfare use for all of these non-citizen populations, the data shows that, overall, non-citizen households access the welfare system at high rates, often receiving benefits on behalf of U.S.-born children.

Among the findings:

In 2014, 63 percent of households headed by a non-citizen reported that they used at least one welfare program, compared to 35 percent of native-headed households.




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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
in ca they are handing out drivers licenses, free healthcare to "low income" (illegals aka work under the table) to 19-25 year olds. its gonna cost at least 100 million/year for an estimated 90,000 haha that number is VERRRRRRY low. there are millions in ca alone in that demographic age range. the US is expecting 1.5 million people to come across the border at the current rates.

63% of long term illegal aliens are on at least one form of welfare



California’s new $213 billion budget has a surplus of $21 billion. They can afford $100 million for health insurance.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
blue text is a link if you were unaware lol. you can hover over blue text and the website address pops up at the bottom left of your screen or monitor.

from center for immigration studies
Quote:
Of non-citizens in Census Bureau data, roughly half are in the country illegally. Non-citizens also include long-term temporary visitors (e.g. guestworkers and foreign students) and permanent residents who have not naturalized (green card holders). Despite the fact that there are barriers designed to prevent welfare use for all of these non-citizen populations, the data shows that, overall, non-citizen households access the welfare system at high rates, often receiving benefits on behalf of U.S.-born children.

Among the findings:

In 2014, 63 percent of households headed by a non-citizen reported that they used at least one welfare program, compared to 35 percent of native-headed households.





Your blue texty links don’t address welfare use by lllegals. Just non-citizens.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
JHOVA said:
in ca they are handing out drivers licenses, free healthcare to "low income" (illegals aka work under the table) to 19-25 year olds. its gonna cost at least 100 million/year for an estimated 90,000 haha that number is VERRRRRRY low. there are millions in ca alone in that demographic age range. the US is expecting 1.5 million people to come across the border at the current rates.

63% of long term illegal aliens are on at least one form of welfare



California’s new $213 billion budget has a surplus of $21 billion. They can afford $100 million for health insurance.



And that money should be used on American citizens. Why do you feel that non citizens should get voting rights, welfare  and healthcare while real Americans are struggling? Mentalities like yours make me sick. 1 in 10 American's live in poverty, 1 in 6 children go to hungry,  but why does any of that matter when they're are illegals to take of?

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: mycosis]
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JHOVA said:
in ca they are handing out drivers licenses, free healthcare to "low income" (illegals aka work under the table) to 19-25 year olds. its gonna cost at least 100 million/year for an estimated 90,000 haha that number is VERRRRRRY low. there are millions in ca alone in that demographic age range. the US is expecting 1.5 million people to come across the border at the current rates.

63% of long term illegal aliens are on at least one form of welfare



mycosis said:
Social Security numbers cost about $800. All the illegals I ever worked with had SS #'s and driver's licenses.

Every so often the states change up whether they give their driver's license test in Spanish and they'd all get those.

Several years ago it was Tennessee. I'm not sure which one they use currently.

One kid I worked with had a Mexican driver's license saying he was 16 or 17 I can't remember but he fucked up when he showed that one to us.
He also had a Tennessee driver's license in another name saying he was 25 so he could get cheaper car insurance, lol.



Ok hold up. johova says illegals work under the table. Mycosis says they get fake SSI and licenses.

Which is it


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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i actually quote texted the segment in question you missed it again.

63% of non citizens use one form of welfare. of those non citizens, 50% are illegal aliens. public charges of the state here to suck the money of middle class stiffs like me and perhaps you my wealthy friend.

the reason these figures are relevant is people like me want to buy houses and pay for things like child care but the state has no focus on helping its citizenry. this state is super expensive. the average house in my neighborhood is $500,000 and climbing lol. when i see the government take my money and give it to people who arent citizens it devalues my citizenship and puts me as a second class citizen and wage slave to corporations. those corporations will benefit from near slave labor but i wont.

it would be nice if the government actually tried to help ME and middle class people out instead of decriminalizing grand theft, decriminalizing knowingly spreading AIDS, and banning plastic straws.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: MagicMush123]
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MagicMush123 said:
koods said:
JHOVA said:
in ca they are handing out drivers licenses, free healthcare to "low income" (illegals aka work under the table) to 19-25 year olds. its gonna cost at least 100 million/year for an estimated 90,000 haha that number is VERRRRRRY low. there are millions in ca alone in that demographic age range. the US is expecting 1.5 million people to come across the border at the current rates.

63% of long term illegal aliens are on at least one form of welfare



California’s new $213 billion budget has a surplus of $21 billion. They can afford $100 million for health insurance.



And that money should be used on American citizens. Why do you feel that non citizens should get voting rights, welfare  and healthcare while real Americans are struggling? Mentalities like yours make me sick. 1 in 10 American's live in poverty, 1 in 6 children go to hungry,  but why does any of that matter when they're are illegals to take of?



I don’t give a fuck their citizenship.

Even jhova’s biased report says this:

Quote:
Welfare receipt by working households is very common. Of non-citizen households receiving welfare, 93 percent have at least one worker, as do 76 percent of native households receiving welfare. In fact, non-citizen households are more likely overall to have a worker than are native households.



93% of non-citizen households are working vs 76% for natives. 1/4 of welfare for natives goes
To people who aren’t working at all. Only 1/14 of non-citizens on welfare do not work.

If we had a decent minimum wage in this country, a lot of these workers wouldn’t need government assistance at all.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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Quote:
63% of non citizens use one form of welfare. of those non citizens, 50% are illegal aliens.



You cannot extrapolate ANYTHING about welfare use by illegals from this data.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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the average house in my neighborhood is $500,000 and climbing lol.



What the fuck does that have to do with immigration?

You’re literally whining about a strong housing market. You want the government to buy you a house? Sounds like you just aren’t cutting it financially and like a typical trump voter, Just want someone else to blame. If houses cost too much, go somewhere else. I keep getting told that the great thing about
America is you can vote with your feet. Move to West Virginia. There are almost no immigrants there and houses are practically free.


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