split_by_nine said:

open borders? you mean the way it was when Europeans flooded the eastern coast throughout the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries. now all of these European descendants are crying about open borders being an issue. what a load of hypocritical bullcrap. it sickens me. and people talk about immigrants as if they are bad. they are humans like us, no less and no more. the US prides itself on being such an opportunistic place that calls to people from all over EARTH to come here and prosper.  its ridiculous.. the ignorant bullshit is riding a high tide as of late.

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That was not the way it was when European settlers came. The lack of social safety net selected for a vastly different segment of the population. The social safety net (welfare) changes everything.

Before Europeans built America the only type of people who came were those who believed they could make it on their own. Which meant they were tenacious and hard working.

Take a guess here, how many social services do you think an illegal immigrant qualifies for in a typical democratic state in America?

Today Democrats lure large swaths of poor people from countries with low IQ's to come to America and go on welfare where they then vote for more Democrats and more democratic policies, like the socialist policies that destroyed their own countries, they come to America and vote for that. Why do you think so many prominent democrats switched their positions on immigration?

In terms of the quality of immigrant you're getting to a country I think Dnesh Dsouza says it best when he describes how "the farther an immigrant has to come, the more capable he'll be." meaning that an immigrant who has to come from say India has to travel a much farther distance, and therefore has a much stricter selection factor for getting here, where as say a 9 month pregnant Mexican only has to trip across a border crossing and boom the whole family is in.

More then the Democratic plan to import a faithful voting block. Why would you want to take hundreds of thousands of people from a country with an average IQ below 100 without some kind of selection factor?



More importantly than that, why isn't this allowed to be discussed in mainstream immigration discussions?

vault123 said:

... Why would you want to take hundreds of thousands of people from a country with an average IQ below 100 without some kind of selection factor?



More importantly than that, why isn't this allowed to be discussed in mainstream immigration discussions?

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qman said:

Why don't you take a "rough ride" and live in a third world nation and then get back to us? 

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in terms of the quality of immigrant you're getting to a country I think Dnesh Dsouza says it best when he describes how "the farther an immigrant has to come, the more capable he'll be." meaning that an immigrant who has to come from say India has to travel a much farther distance, and therefore has a much stricter selection factor for getting here, where as say a 9 month pregnant Mexican only has to trip across a border crossing and boom the whole family is in.

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vault123 said:

I think 110 is the average for most college graduates so probably around there. Hard work and determination can compensate to an extent, but it only goes so far. Everyone has a certain threshold of complexity that once reached is simply impassible.

It was very difficult for me to come to terms with the idea that there is an upper bound for each person that can not be passed simply by applying more effort. I can understand why so many people would rather not think about it.

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Asante said:

qman said:

Why don't you take a "rough ride" and live in a third world nation and then get back to us? 

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Third world nations only exiost by grace of borders.

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koods said:

Environmental factors are more important than genetics. Things like learning multiple languages, intellectual and visual stimulation, musical training, etc during a person’s formative years will increase their intelligence. Nutrition and health is crucial. For example, people in the south were notoriously intellectually handicapped by rampant hookworm infection. Look at the IQ map. You think it’s a coincidence that the lowest IQ countries straddle the equator?

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That's racist.

Morel Guy said:

Average iq is 100 teens.  Depends on iq test, there are many.

Iq tests are mainly rigid in form.  Testing learned ability or differences similarities in shapes.  They don't test a lot of social intelligence or even emotional intelligence.

I test high average to gifted depending on test and day.  But absolutely retarded emotionally.  Cannot read a face in a drawing for the life of me.

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koods said:

Environmental factors are more important than genetics. Things like learning multiple languages, intellectual and visual stimulation, musical training, etc during a person’s formative years will increase their intelligence. Nutrition and health is crucial. For example, people in the south were notoriously intellectually handicapped by rampant hookworm infection. Look at the IQ map. You think it’s a coincidence that the lowest IQ countries straddle the equator?

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koods said:

Morel Guy said:

Average iq is 100 teens.  Depends on iq test, there are many.

Iq tests are mainly rigid in form.  Testing learned ability or differences similarities in shapes.  They don't test a lot of social intelligence or even emotional intelligence.

I test high average to gifted depending on test and day.  But absolutely retarded emotionally.  Cannot read a face in a drawing for the life of me.

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IQ tests are scored based on standard deviations in a normal population distribution. The median score is defined at 100.

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As I recall, you scored <75, Mr.