Tantrika said:

Pinkerton said:

Do you think this is fucking funny!?

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nah, do not personally play around with the prostitutes

all about expressing myself as a brown skinned girl
stealing army planes to go skydiving

mountain biking for fun

this is always important to me, as physical limitations mean doing so in real life is no longer an available option

but since violence seems to be more your preferred style
here's me gunning down a gang in search of their cannabis stash

blowing up a biker gang's hangout

and gunning down innocent civilians

do find part of this last one funny, made sure to include the cat running away from my gunfire
because he looks like a chubby version of my kitty :3

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What a mess we're in. I see little hope.

Pinkerton said:

Really?
In that scenario, personally blame the parents
they should be engaged with the media their children consume
and be there to teach the difference between right and wrong

You are explicitly referencing kids playing a game that they are typically to be banned from buying at the counter; gta5 is rated Mature

You don't think teenagers get left out of their social circle if they don't own the latest Grand Theft Auto?

The world is much more complex than you think, Tan.

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Pinkerton said:

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is every player a time bomb waiting to go off, or was there perhaps something that set him apart from the broader community?

I see Skyrim is winding you up, take it easy and read my previous post thoroughly:

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I'm not blaming video games in itself but it's a part of the violent latent rage human beings holds inside them.

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So, to answer my question, yes, you view every player as a time bomb waiting to go off
because you view all human beings as a time bomb waiting to go off

suppose time will tell,
WoW at its peak had more than double the population of Norway
so we should eventually be seeing all sorts of people attributing their violence to it

Pinkerton said:

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Good.
Kids get one opportunity to be kids,
they should not have fun taken from them over concerns of 'violent' play
the other kids should imagine themselves as Black Cat and hand Spiderman's ass to him


You condone violence. You're very much affected by video games as a part of the whole vile mess we're in.

It's very ugly and very dirty, it's humanity.
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as with learning not to touch something that is hot
kids should rough house and learn that inappropriate force can cause harm to themselves or others
before they develop the muscle mass to do meaningful damage in learning those lessons

otherwise, they should be enrolled in martial arts and have the meaning and message drummed into them through rigorous practice

Pinkerton said:

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Am wide awake

Tell me, why do you think Afghani and Somali human beings are TERRIFIED of violent video games?
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People always fear what they don't understand

Pinkerton said:

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Indulge in it Tantrika. Enjoy it to the max. Violence is so good for your brain. 

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will continue taking it to the digital world
rather than taking it to the streets like some hooligan

tho, to be honest,
do kind of regret not participating in one of the many Montréal hockey riots
like a rite of passage that my anti-social self never went downtown for

Pinkerton said:

Tantrika said:

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mountain biking for fun

this is always important to me, as physical limitations mean doing so in real life is no longer an available option
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What a mess we're in. I see little hope.

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VR technology personally gives me hope of reaching a point where it feels like experiencing things first hand again

it's not just about the hope it will help me with my PTSD
but hope that it will also help with escape from physical pain

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Graydon Cuthbertson nearly lost his legs from compartment syndrome.  He has gone through multiple calf surgeries, and when the dressings on his leg wounds are changed, the sensation can range from discomfort to excruciating pain.

But this time, the 47-year-old's mind is elsewhere — at a virtual, lake-side campground instead of his room at the Rockyview General Hospital in Calgary.

"The time goes by a lot quicker. I can feel her touching my legs and stuff but I don't really feel anything going on," he said.

Rockyview is the first hospital in Canada to use virtual reality technology to help wound care patients alleviate the pain and stress of treatment. An anonymous donor funded two Samsung Gear headsets, allowing patients to escape to one of 12 VR experiences.

Cuthbertson's said VR really makes having his dressings changed a lot easier.

"I found that when I just put on the goggles, I could go to Cirque du Soleil, I could swim with dolphins … compared to being there for an hour and a half," he said.
75 per cent reduction in discomfort

Patients using virtual-reality therapy at the hospital were asked to rate their level of discomfort — which includes ratings of pain, nausea and anxiety — and overall experience, before and after each session.

The hospital said patients reported a 75 per cent reduction in discomfort and a 31 per cent improvement in overall experience.

Scout Windsor, a video conference tele-health technician at the hospital, said they tried to pick experiences that would be both distracting and relaxing for patients.

"There's some experiences that are just really wonderful and you can be in them for any length of time."

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/wound-care-virtual-reality-1.4805835

Got left out of social circles for my appearance and background
played Grand Theft Auto 1 on the original Playstation in my grandparents basement because no one my age liked me

but had a mother that screened every game in my library,
talked to me on a regular basis about the media in my life,
and taught me gun safety when taking me out hunting and sending me hunting with my uncle

tho GTA could play into my fear of accidentally running people over that sets off my OCD and inhibits me in pursuing getting a driver's license

I bet you loved killing civilians on GTA, I did too. If you're wide awake, you should find it very nasty. The mentality is crazy.

So you were hunting, like that's a necessity. Guns are patethic. And mostly an American-thing. We see how America operates both inside the country and abroad. Richest and most powerful (by far) army in the world.

Drop your guns.

So, to answer my question, yes, you view every player as a time bomb waiting to go off
because you view all human beings as a time bomb waiting to go off

I don't view every player as a time bomb waiting to go off. Where did you get that from?

The violence is latent.

suppose time will tell,
WoW at its peak had more than double the population of Norway
so we should eventually be seeing all sorts of people attributing their violence to it


It will happen over time. But as previously stated:

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I'm not blaming video games in itself but it's a part of the violent latent rage human beings holds inside them.

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as with learning not to touch something that is hot
kids should rough house and learn that inappropriate force can cause harm to themselves or others
before they develop the muscle mass to do meaningful damage in learning those lessons

I kind of like the first paragraph of yours.

Kids MUST learn PEACE and ALTRUISM from the day they're born. The whole world must be rebuilt, uniting us all together under one strict doctrine. Science and technology are tools we can use to discover medicine which will melt us all in one giant emotional communion.

otherwise, they should be enrolled in martial arts and have the meaning and message drummed into them through rigorous practice

Right so they should learn not to do violence but they should learn martial arts.

People always fear what they don't understand

Afghani and Somali human beings in Norway doesn't understand how fucked up war, murder, rape and hatred is?

When Afghani and Somali human beings see vile murders on Call of Duty, it takes them back to their horrid personal experiences, it's the shit they flee from. They KNOW what that shit really is, they desperately fleed from it and here you're Tantrika a spoiled westerner not giving a fuck about the culture you're promoting. You Tantrika, don't know shit about war. That's why you enjoy it.

will continue taking it to the digital world
rather than taking it to the streets like some hooligan

Yeah, I'm sure violence makes you happy. Ignorance is bliss.

Pinkerton said:

Got left out of social circles for my appearance and background
played Grand Theft Auto 1 on the original Playstation in my grandparents basement because no one my age liked me

but had a mother that screened every game in my library,
talked to me on a regular basis about the media in my life,
and taught me gun safety when taking me out hunting and sending me hunting with my uncle

tho GTA could play into my fear of accidentally running people over that sets off my OCD and inhibits me in pursuing getting a driver's license

I bet you loved killing civilians on GTA, I did too. If you're wide awake, you should find it very nasty. The mentality is crazy.

So you were hunting, like that's a necessity. Guns are patethic. And mostly an American-thing. We see how America operates both inside the country and abroad. Richest and most powerful (by far) army in the world.

Drop your guns.
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Hunting, and fishing as well,
not sure how far you can get from civilization in Europe
but in empty prairies of Canada knowing how to obtain and prepare food
as well as build winter shelter
is the type of thing kids went through

fun fact, grew up in a province
with a land mass larger than Norway and Estonia combined
but with a population base of less than Estonia
the wilderness is still a real thing on this side of the pond

Pinkerton said:

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So, to answer my question, yes, you view every player as a time bomb waiting to go off
because you view all human beings as a time bomb waiting to go off

I don't view every player as a time bomb waiting to go off. Where did you get that from?

The violence is latent.

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Good job, you asked and answered yourself and made my life easier
much appreciated

Pinkerton said:

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suppose time will tell,
WoW at its peak had more than double the population of Norway
so we should eventually be seeing all sorts of people attributing their violence to it


It will happen over time. But as previously stated:

Quote:

I'm not blaming video games in itself but it's a part of the violent latent rage human beings holds inside them.

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mhm

Pinkerton said:

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as with learning not to touch something that is hot
kids should rough house and learn that inappropriate force can cause harm to themselves or others
before they develop the muscle mass to do meaningful damage in learning those lessons

I kind of like the first paragraph of yours.

Kids MUST learn PEACE and ALTRUISM from the day they're born. The whole world must be rebuilt, uniting us all together under one strict doctrine. Science and technology are tools we can use to discover medicine which will melt us all in one giant emotional communion.
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when we are ready for the machine overlords to melt us down into a communal stew to power them like in the Matrix
then it will be awesomely appropriate for kids to focus entirely on non-physical lessons

Pinkerton said:

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otherwise, they should be enrolled in martial arts and have the meaning and message drummed into them through rigorous practice

Right so they should learn not to do violence but they should learn martial arts.
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if you equate the study of martial arts with a propensity to do violence, you may wish to rethink your position
keep in mind that Shaolin Monks had their extreme martial arts practices developed as a series of moving meditations
to offset the effects of prolonged seated meditation

Bodhidharma is credited with both bringing Chan/Zen Buddhism to East Asia, as well as originating Kung Fu

Pinkerton said:

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People always fear what they don't understand

Afghani and Somali human beings in Norway doesn't understand how fucked up war, murder, rape and hatred is?
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from the description you give (being terrified) Afghani and Somali human beings in Norway don't understand that videogames pose no objective threat to them

Pinkerton said:

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When Afghani and Somali human beings see vile murders on Call of Duty, it takes them back to their horrid personal experiences, it's the shit they flee from. They KNOW what that shit really is, they desperately fleed from it and here you're Tantrika a spoiled westerner not giving a fuck about the culture you're promoting. You Tantrika, don't know shit about war. That's why you enjoy it.
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Pinkerton said:

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will continue taking it to the digital world
rather than taking it to the streets like some hooligan

Yeah, I'm sure violence makes you happy. Ignorance is bliss.

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You were prolly blissfully ignorant of the fact
but suffer from PTSD due to being subjected sexual violence in my childhood

but do, by all means, recognize my enormous privilege (re: being "a spoiled westerner")
to have a digital medium to express myself through and deal with my mental anguish
rather than nothing but harsh reality and weapons to take out my pain on others

without video games, would have definitely lashed out at people around me
and may be in jail rather than able to sit here and converse with you today

Pinkerton said:

Hunting, and fishing as well,
not sure how far you can get from civilization in Europe
but in empty prairies of Canada knowing how to obtain and prepare food
as well as build winter shelter
is the type of thing kids went through

fun fact, grew up in a province
with a land mass larger than Norway and Estonia combined
but with a population base of less than Estonia
the wilderness is still a real thing on this side of the pond


Good for you. Not good for the animals. But why would you care? As long as your belly is fed.
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someday my remains will fertilize the soil that feeds their descendants
but removing myself from the reproductive cycle means my footprint ends with me

Pinkerton said:

Good job, you asked and answered yourself and made my life easier
much appreciated

Oh gawd. You misunderstand. It's hidden rage. It could errupt. It's not a
time bomb waiting to go off like it's a definite.

I interpret latent this way:

latent means something that is capable of becoming active or at hand but has not yet achieved that state.

I'm latent for psychosis, it could happen but it's not waiting to happen like it will happen eventually.

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Pinkerton said:

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when we are ready for the machine overlords to melt us down into a communal stew to power them like in the Matrix
then it will be awesomely appropriate for kids to focus entirely on non-physical lessons

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if you equate the study of martial arts with a propensity to do violence, you may wish to rethink your position
keep in mind that Shaolin Monks had their extreme martial arts practices developed as a series of moving meditations
to offset the effects of prolonged seated meditation

Bodhidharma is credited with both bringing Chan/Zen Buddhism to East Asia, as well as originating Kung Fu



I'm all about meditation and zen and all that jazz. But the violence!? WTF!? Are you out of your mind!?
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Pinkerton said:

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from the description you give (being terrified) Afghani and Somali human beings in Norway don't understand that videogames pose no objective threat to them

Oh but it does, kidlets in the America gets ragefueled killing towelheads on Call of Duty/Battlefield. And guess what they do it IRL as well!

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American kids kill "towelheads" IRL?

do they catch Chinpokomon too?

Pinkerton said:

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You were prolly blissfully ignorant of the fact
but suffer from PTSD due to being subjected sexual violence in my childhood

but do, by all means, recognize my enormous privilege (re: being "a spoiled westerner")
to have a digital medium to express myself through and deal with my mental anguish
rather than nothing but harsh reality and weapons to take out my pain on others


Yes and I was severely bullied as a kid. I suffer from PTSD myself. I'm diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. Been a gambling addict and drug addict. I'm filled with bitterness and hatred. Still, I'm a spoiled westerner compared to most warthorn Afghani and Somali human beings.
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Pinkerton said:

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without video games, would have definitely lashed out at people around me
and may be in jail rather than able to sit here and converse with you today

Now you're just speculating in the unknown.

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Pinkerton said:

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Tantrika:

Not the best rebuttal I've seen.
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Pinkerton said:

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Then you should understand quite well that without proper psychological help exposure to violent games will potentially be triggering to such individuals
and that being triggered is not evidence of an objective threat facing the indvidual

It's a hostile threat to their mind. Not everything is physical damage. Fuck, have you ever heard of psychological abuse?
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I interpret latent this way:

latent means something that is capable of becoming active or at hand but has not yet achieved that state.

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ballsalsa said:

I look forward to the day i no longer have to scroll through pages of your inane drivel in order to see if anyone has made a post worth reading.

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Tantrike goes on a tripe how video games does not affect humans violently

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Pinkerton said:

Tell me, why do you think Afghani and Somali human beings are TERRIFIED of violent video games?

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Or maybe not so inane drivel after all?

ballz escape...

XUL said:

But, he is the best poster.

How dare ye.

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I have tried finding common ground amongst us. It's a petty something isn't it?

ballsalsa said:

I look forward to the day i no longer have to scroll through pages of your inane drivel in order to see if anyone has made a post worth reading.

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Tantrika goes on a tripe how video games does not affect humans violently

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Pinkerton said:

Tell me, why do you think Afghani and Somali human beings are TERRIFIED of violent video games?

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Ballz for president.