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OfflineSlapnutRob
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Great Political Cartoon
    #2257965 - 01/21/04 12:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Anyone here read the Boondocks? Awesome comic. And so true.



Has anyone else ever noticed that all the important advances in our history have come from LIBERAL movements? Civil Rights for minorities and women.... worker's rights... the fucking REVOLUTIONARY WAR??

/angryliberalrant


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2258044 - 01/21/04 12:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if the fathers of the american revolution voiced their opinions today, they would be branded as extreme rightwingers... hardcore libertarians. they were mostly all classical liberals, which is entirely different from todays usage of the term "liberal".


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: ]
    #2258172 - 01/21/04 01:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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mushmaster said:
if the fathers of the american revolution voiced their opinions today, they would be branded as extreme rightwingers... hardcore libertarians. they were mostly all classical liberals, which is entirely different from todays usage of the term "liberal".



To which forefathers are you referring?  People talk about "the forefathers" as if they all had the same opinions. :smirk:


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2258201 - 01/21/04 01:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Check this out, there's a new one every week. Certainly on par with Boondocks.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0403/sutton.php


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2258241 - 01/21/04 01:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I dont really like reading this cartoon. I dont like people who bitch about the color of their skin either.

SSoul, founding fathers = the dudes who signed the papers.


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: OctopusDr]
    #2258282 - 01/21/04 01:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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SSoul, founding fathers = the dudes who signed the papers.



Even if that is your definition(which I don't think is broad enough), even those people disagreed with each other. The Constitution was essentially a compromise between those who wanted a strong federal government(like Alexander Hamilton) and those who favored states' rights(like Thomas Jefferson).


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2258628 - 01/21/04 02:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the GOP elephant ..dont let this happen to you ..



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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: OctopusDr]
    #2258673 - 01/21/04 03:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"I dont really like reading this cartoon. I dont like people who bitch about the color of their skin either."
No Shit!?! You're really from the south east? I can't fucking believe it!


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2258998 - 01/21/04 07:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Civil Rights for minorities and women




is that why liberals like Al Gore, Sr., together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

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the fucking REVOLUTIONARY WAR??




What the fuck are you talking aboot?


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2259727 - 01/21/04 02:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Civil Rights for minorities and women




is that why liberals like Al Gore, Sr., together with the rest of the southern Democrats, voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?



Don't confuse the terms "liberal" and "Democrat." In fact, that act caused many racist Southern Democrats to defect to the Republican party. The defection of the South was more or less complete by Nixon's second term. When Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, he said, "We just lost the South to the Republicans for a long time to come."


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: silversoul7]
    #2260106 - 01/21/04 04:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Don't confuse the terms "liberal" and "Democrat." In fact, that act caused many racist Southern Democrats to defect to the Republican party.




That doesn't answer the questions as to why Al Gore Sr. voted against it. Why is that?


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2260112 - 01/21/04 04:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



you sure could grow alot of cubies from that pile.  :mushroom2:


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: ]
    #2260166 - 01/21/04 04:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hahahaha a true Shroomerite....


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2260281 - 01/21/04 05:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Don't confuse the terms "liberal" and "Democrat." In fact, that act caused many racist Southern Democrats to defect to the Republican party.




That doesn't answer the questions as to why Al Gore Sr. voted against it. Why is that?



Maybe because Al Gore Sr. is completely irrelevant to any discussion of contemporary politics?


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: silversoul7]
    #2260522 - 01/21/04 07:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Maybe because Al Gore Sr. is completely irrelevant to any discussion of contemporary politics?




It is when you make accusation of "just the racist congressmen" voted against the act, when in fact MANY democrates stood in the way of Civil rights. My point is merely to demonstrate that liberals/democrats aren't exactly the bastion of morality.


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2260539 - 01/21/04 07:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Many of those who opposed the Civil Rights Act but weren't necessarily racist did so because they thought it violated State Rights.


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: silversoul7]
    #2260622 - 01/21/04 07:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How could you tell the difference between the racist ones and those that opposed it due to state rights?

as in your previous post:
"In fact, that act caused many racist Southern Democrats to defect to the Republican party"


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2260643 - 01/21/04 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, maybe I can't. But it is interesting that most of the Democrats who opposed it lived in the South, where all this discrimination was taking place. Maybe Al Gore Sr. was a racist. How should I know?


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2260644 - 01/21/04 07:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i think what he's supporting is the idea that civil rights were championed by what we call liberals. i think he's correct to say that.


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Re: Great Political Cartoon [Re: ]
    #2260655 - 01/21/04 07:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i think what he's supporting is the idea that civil rights were championed by what we call liberals. i think he's correct to say that.



Not at all. The Southern Democrats at the time were by and large rather conservative. A perfect example is Alabama governor George Wallace(who later founded the American Independent party). He was a conservative Democrat, and was the one who had the police dogs set loose on the Civil Rights marchers in Birmingham.


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