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Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?)
    #5300774 - 02/14/06 10:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan

By ASIF SHAHZAD, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 9 minutes ago

Thousands rampaged through two cities Tuesday in Pakistan's worst violence against Prophet Muhammad caricatures, burning buildings housing a hotel, banks and a KFC, vandalizing a Citibank and breaking windows at a Holiday Inn and a Pizza Hut.

At least two people were killed in Lahore, where intelligence officials suspected outlawed Islamic militant groups incited the violence to undermine President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's U.S.-allied government.

An Associated Press reporter in Lahore saw crowd members who appeared to be orchestrating the attacks, directing protesters ? some of whom were carrying containers of kerosene ? toward particular targets. The demonstrators also set the provincial government assembly building on fire.

In the capital, Islamabad, hundreds of students stormed through the main entrance of the tightly guarded enclave that houses most foreign embassies, brandishing sticks and throwing stones. They were dispersed with tear gas, and no foreigners were hurt.

The unruly protests and deaths marked an alarming spike in the unrest in Pakistan over the cartoons, which first appeared in a Danish newspaper in September and have been reprinted by other Western newspapers. One cartoon depicts Muhammad wearing a turban shaped as a bomb with an ignited detonator string.

Many in this conservative Islamic country, as across the Muslim world, regard any depiction of the prophet as blasphemous. They reject the newspapers' explanations that the cartoons have news value and represent free speech.

In southern Iraq, Basra's provincial council demanded the withdrawal of Denmark's 530-member military contingent from the region unless the Danish government apologizes for the cartoons ? which it refuses to do, saying it has no influence over the media.

The president of the European Commission backed the Danish government's refusal, saying freedom of speech cannot be compromised. "It's better to publish too much than not to have freedom," President Jose Manuel Barroso told Jyllands-Posten, the paper that first published the drawings.

Demonstrations around Asia and the Middle East have subsided in recent days, including in Afghanistan, where 11 people died in riots last week. But the protests have gathered momentum in Pakistan this week.

In Lahore, the eastern city that is the main commercial hub in prosperous Punjab province, about 15,000 joined the protest organized by a little-known religious group and an Islamic school. The demonstration was also supported by associations representing local traders who shuttered businesses and most markets Tuesday.

Witnesses said a minority of protesters in small groups ran amok down streets lined with old colonial buildings and shopping malls. Television footage showed at least one rioter firing a hand gun.

Security forces fired live rounds into the air, but failed to stop protesters from setting fire to the Punjab provincial assembly and burning down four buildings housing a hotel, two banks, a KFC restaurant and the office of Norwegian cell phone company, Telenor. Two movie theaters were also torched.

Witnesses said rioters also damaged over 200 cars, dozens of shops ? many locally owned ? and a large portrait of Musharraf. American brands were targeted. Protesters vandalized a Citibank branch and broke windows at a Holiday Inn hotel, a Pizza Hut and a McDonald's restaurants.

A security guard shot and killed two protesters trying to force their way into a bank, said Interior Minister Aftab Khan Sherpao. At least 11 other people were injured in the riots.

A security official said members of the outlawed militant group Sipah-e-Sahaba and others from Jamaat al-Dawat ? which is linked to the outlawed Laskhar-e-Tayyaba group ? were among the rioters, and were trying to turn the cartoon furor against Musharraf's government.

"People belonging to outlawed militant groups participated in today's rally, and some of them attacked public and private property," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media. "They were the ones who stirred up violence."

Sherpao said that some "miscreants" were among the protesters, but refused to give details. He accused organizers of failing to honor a promise to keep the rally orderly.

In Islamabad, about 180 miles northwest of Lahore, police appeared lax in trying to control protesters.

A dozen policemen looked on as 1,000-1,500 people, mostly students, rushed through the main entrance of the diplomatic enclave, smashing street signs and a bank window.

U.S. and British embassy staffers were confined to their compounds until police reinforcements with batons and shields used tear gas to disperse the demonstrators, who shouted "Death to America" and other slogans. About 50 protesters were detained.

Separately, about 50 lawmakers from the federal parliament staged a brief rally by the diplomatic enclave. Cleric Hafiz Hussain Ahmad, a leader of an opposition Islamic coalition, said, "We have come to the doors of the embassies to take our voice to the ambassadors. There is anger in the Islamic world. If they do not listen, their problems will increase."


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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: Catalysis]
    #5301056 - 02/14/06 11:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)



"Pakistani protesters tag donkeys as head of states of Western countries during a demonstration in Karachi February 14, 2006."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060214/ids_photos_wl/r3487349468.jpg


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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: Catalysis]
    #5301568 - 02/15/06 01:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Islamic militants murder children and innocent civilians....Muslims around the world don't say much. Somebody draws a picture and they rampage through the streets. Don't you love the irony?


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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: Catalysis]
    #5302045 - 02/15/06 04:55 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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(Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?)



It never was.


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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #5303570 - 02/15/06 05:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Four separate facts to consider

1. Denmark is about to take over the rotating presidency of the UN Security Concil

2. Iran is about to be referred to that body for nuclear violations

3. Syria is under intense scrutiny because it looks very much like the top firgures in their government assassinated that Lebanese former Prime Minister. Serious shit about to hit fan. (Also very strong allegations about Iraqi WMD, but that is still developing)

4. Two governments taking the forefront in fomenting discord over these cartoons....Iran and Syria.

_Perhaps Iran and Syria have decided to play up the notion of anti-muslim bias in the Danish government as a way to say "See, they are persecting us with these investigations and sanctions. They hate allah and mohammed so they are tryiing to fuck us."

Call me crazy.


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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #5307273 - 02/16/06 04:28 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Islamic militants murder children and innocent civilians....Muslims around the world don't say much.




I'm not defending the "muslim world," but I don't think this is very accurate. I know plenty of muslims who get just as upset over militant violence as you or I do.


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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5307544 - 02/16/06 05:40 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

:shiftyeyes:


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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #5307636 - 02/16/06 06:09 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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:shiftyeyes:




Really:

"For Denmark is set to assume the rotating presidency of the U.N. Security Council ? at the very time that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) is expected to refer Iran to the Security Council and demand sanctions. What better, for Tehran's purposes, than to portray Denmark as "an enemy of Islam" and mobilize Muslim sympathy against the Security Council?

To regain the initiative from the Sunni-Salafi groups, Ahmadinejad quickly ordered a severing of commercial ties with Denmark, thus portraying the Islamic Republic as the Muslim world's leader in the anti-Danish campaign.

Syria was next to jump on the bandwagon, again for mercenary reasons. The United Nations wants Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and five of his relatives and aides, including his younger brother, for questioning in the murder of Lebanon's former premier, Rafiq al-Hariri. (Assad has tried to negotiate immunity for himself and his brother in exchange for handing over the others ? but the U.N. wouldn't play.) As with Iran's nuclear program, the Syrian dossier will reach the Security Council under Danish presidency. To portray Denmark as "an enemy of the Prophet" would not be such a bad thing when the council, as expected, points the finger at Assad and his regime as responsible for a series of political murders, including that of Hariri.

The Danish-cartoons cow will also be milked in another way: Tehran and Damascus have launched a diplomatic campaign to put the issue of "protecting religions against blasphemy" on the Security Council agenda. If that were to happen, issues such as Iran's quest for the atomic bomb and Syria's murder machine in Lebanon might be pushed aside, at least as far as world public opinion is concerned."

http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/19313

The above was published in the NY Post on Feb 9 and written by Amir Taheri.  Read the rest, there's much more.


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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: Catalysis]
    #5307752 - 02/16/06 06:49 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

KFC existed in Lahore Pakistan?


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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #5309619 - 02/17/06 08:37 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Four separate facts to consider.....






Interesting analysis there Zappaisgod.

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Re: Cartoon Protesters Rampage in Pakistan (Is This Really About Cartoons Anymore?) [Re: gregorio]
    #5311394 - 02/17/06 08:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)



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