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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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Qman was saying earlier that immigrants are bringing disease into the country.

That’s not the real problem. Canada now has a health advisory for travelers to the United States for measles. An Israeli woman who contracted measles in the US has been in a coma for 10 days


https://nypost.com/2019/04/18/israeli-flight-attendant-with-measles-has-suspected-brain-damage-report/


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Nah the straw man is even bringing up MS13, which is a Gang that originated in American prisons, not a foreign country.


Does it matter where they originated? They're terrorizing innocent people and sanctuary cities are protecting them.



https://cis.org/Vaughan/Dozens-Gang-Members-Released-Sanctuary-Policies

I'm glad your neighborhood is safe though I'm sure that will comfort the families who are living in fear.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: vault123] * 1
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Center for immigration studies lol


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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I'm glad your neighborhood is safe though I'm sure that will comfort the families who are living in fear.


Trumps been president for two years. Maybe he should fix the problem instead of talking about releasing gang members in American cities


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Let's start with the drug statement legalize all drugs and the drugs stop flowing into the United States. For human trafficking, they are coming both ways through the border. Mostly coming into the United States. Not by ports of entry, but through area where there isn't border wall at all. The people they're bring in don't have proper identification and passports. Most of these females are kidnapped. I don't believe it emboldens them. But makes it much harder to get in or out.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: CypressRage]
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"Vigilante group detains hundreds of migrants at gunpoint"


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman]
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disgusting, gun-toting, racist militia. i hope they soon wake up from their fantasy world and realize that they dont own America.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
disgusting, gun-toting, racist militia. i hope they soon wake up from their fantasy world and realize that they dont own America.


There's nothing racist about it and US citizens do "own America", with that being said they shouldn't be doing what they're doing. Unfortunately, the US refuses to provide the needed resources to protect the borders.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman] * 1
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We didn’t WANT to gas all the Jews but the Weimar Republic left us no choice.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
We didn’t WANT to gas all the Jews but the Weimar Republic left us no choice.


That makes no sense.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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what is the benefit of keeping tax-paying, hard-working, good families out of the US?


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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and, no im sorry to disappoint you qman but you do not own America. even if you own land or real estate, you will no longer be in possession of it if you stop giving the govt your $$$. so yeah its safe to say you are renting it lol


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
what is the benefit of keeping tax-paying, hard-working, good families out of the US?


They're not US citizens, this isn't very complicated.  Why does Australia have its immigration laws?  To keep it a great nation.

split_by_nine said:
and, no im sorry to disappoint you qman but you do not own America. even if you own land or real estate, you will no longer be in possession of it if you stop giving the govt your $$$. so yeah its safe to say you are renting it lol


The government is made up of US citizens.  We own it.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman]
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you didnt answer my question. and lol to the "us govt are us citizens". if you own America, id like to see you stroll into the Pentagon just to look around.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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what is the benefit of preventing hard-working, law-abiding, good families from coming here and becoming citizens? please tell me


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
what is the benefit of preventing hard-working, law-abiding, good families from coming here and becoming citizens? please tell me


Lots of different reasons.  Ask yourself, why does every country in the world have borders, citizenship and national sovereignty?  We don't have a free for all because it's unmanageable.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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and for the sake of argument, please tell us all how YOU would feel if you were one of those hard-working, law-abiding, good mannered people trying to come to the US for better oppurtunities and yet you are denied entry because of your skin color or  country of birth.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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i asked of the BENEFITS, not reasons behind it.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
and for the sake of argument, please tell us all how YOU would feel if you were one of those hard-working, law-abiding, good mannered people trying to come to the US for better oppurtunities and yet you are denied entry because of your skin color or  country of birth.


Then they can come the legal way, its simple.  Obviously if they're sneaking across the border and ILLEGALLY entering the states, then they aren't law abiding,  are they? And basically every immigrant entering the states or Canada is non white,  so your argument is completely wrong and invalid. Stop arguing with your heart

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
and for the sake of argument, please tell us all how YOU would feel if you were one of those hard-working, law-abiding, good mannered people trying to come to the US for better oppurtunities and yet you are denied entry because of your skin color or  country of birth.


I'm denied legal citizenship and residency in most countries, it's fine. Where did you come up with the notion that all 8 billion humans are entitled to first world opportunities?  That's ridiculous.

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