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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
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ballsalsa said:
On a side note, I went to predictit today and saw that Kamala is the front-runner right now.
:huxleyfacepalm:


Ya, fuck the establishment democrat.


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
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She's alright.  We could do worse, but she won't win.  Nominating her would be foolish.

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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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We already have Tulsi Gabbard in the mix, so most of Bernie's positions are already going to be represented. I'm really glad she threw in her hat, though I would still prefer Bernie.


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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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I think it's going to take a long time to see what the Democratic Party is going to do.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
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Brian Jones said:
I think it's going to take a long time to see what the Democratic Party is going to do.


Is going to do about what?

I have a feeling there are a lot of smear campaigns/conspiracy plots already in the works for this Democratic primary cycle.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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I just discovered that Tulsi Gabbard did a Joe Rogan podcast, the other day. I thought this was pretty ballsy on her behalf, and quite funny also. You would never see a politician like Hillary Clinton go on something like JRE, because it would be very difficult to fake who you are for ~2 hours solid, while talking to an every day 'joe' (pun intended)!



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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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She gives a big shout out to Jimmy Dore for talking about a lot of things the mainstream media won't cover.  :thumbup:


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
She gives a big shout out to Jimmy Dore for talking about a lot of things the mainstream media won't cover.  :thumbup:


Yes, I thought that was pretty cool. I think that's the first time I've ever seen a politician endorse alternative media.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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The smear campaign from the mainstream media will be brutal, but hopefully enough of us realize that's all going to be a bunch of horse shit.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
The smear campaign from the mainstream media will be brutal, but hopefully enough of us realize that's all going to be a bunch of horse shit.


I like that Trump has spread the idea of 'fake news'. It's important that people start understanding what American news media has become. I have been seeing some brazen smears of Bernie Sanders already. It is a bit disheartening too, to be perfectly honest.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Nobody does propaganda as well as the US.  I think Congress took Hillary seriously when she said we need to kick up our propaganda efforts.

(old video, but a good one)



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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
The smear campaign from the mainstream media will be brutal, but hopefully enough of us realize that's all going to be a bunch of horse shit.


I like that Trump has spread the idea of 'fake news'. It's important that people start understanding what American news media has become. I have been seeing some brazen smears of Bernie Sanders already. It is a bit disheartening too, to be perfectly honest.


Unfortunately, the left has now dedicated itself to believing the MSM because of their hatred of Trump.

Instead of being the party of skepticism and questioning authority, they can embrace everything that comes from The Establishment.

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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Bigbadwooof said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
The smear campaign from the mainstream media will be brutal, but hopefully enough of us realize that's all going to be a bunch of horse shit.


I like that Trump has spread the idea of 'fake news'. It's important that people start understanding what American news media has become. I have been seeing some brazen smears of Bernie Sanders already. It is a bit disheartening too, to be perfectly honest.


Unfortunately, the left has now dedicated itself to believing the MSM because of their hatred of Trump.

Instead of being the party of skepticism and questioning authority, they can embrace everything that comes from The Establishment.


Believe it or not, there are many of us on the left that don't hate Trump. I don't hate him. I think he's a buffoon, and a child, but I don't hate him. I don't take anything he says seriously, and neither should you. He's proven himself to be a pathological liar, and intellectually inferior to your average Joe.

A very significant portion of the left questions the Democratic party these days. At least 50% of what alternative left wing media does is criticize Democratic politicians.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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http://fortune.com/2019/01/28/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-calls-out-facebook-google-microsoft-for-implicit-support-of-climate-change-denial/

It almost seems like she's sabotaging herself.

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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
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Unfortunately, educated people make up the minority of the population, so you may be right.

You do realize that 97% of climate scientists agree on man made global warming, which is astounding considering that half of them are probably conservative.


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Unfortunately, educated people make up the minority of the population, so you may be right.

You do realize that 97% of climate scientists agree on man made global warming, which is astounding considering that half of them are probably conservative.


I also agree with them, the disagreement starts what to do about it.

From my perspective, I don't want to do anything that lowers my current standard of living because someone chooses to get hysterical about the climate and environment.

In fact, many politicians, governments and activists abuse this fear about these issues to make laws and mandates for their own benefit at the expense of average people.

Humans are wired for the short term, they're not wired to alter their chances of survival on the potential theory of causing long term damage for future generations.

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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Humans are wired for the short term, they're not wired to alter their chances of survival on the potential theory of causing long term damage for future generations.


Does that mean that efforts to do so are without merit?

There is benefit to worrying about the future, if we were so short sighted, nuclear war would have already ended us. I believe that this is the great test for humanity. Can we bridge the gap between our nature, and our capability? If so, the sky is no limit. We have no other limitations.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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Bigbadwooof said:
Brian Jones said:
I think it's going to take a long time to see what the Democratic Party is going to do.


Is going to do about what?

I have a feeling there are a lot of smear campaigns/conspiracy plots already in the works for this Democratic primary cycle.


Is going to do about installing a nominee for President. This process is more fabricated than the general election, and what happened to Sanders last time was not a unique occurrence, despite what many on this forum believe. It was business as usual for party politics. Maybe I'm more sensitive to this because I have been following politics from Chicago since the 60's, and over here there is no pretense to fairness. The game is rigged.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 3
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Bernie and other progressive candidates have gotten people excited about helping the poor and middle classes by taxing the rich a little more.

But the rich have an answer.  Enter Democratic billionaire Howard Schultz, who says he will run as an independent.  If an establishment democrat wins the democratic party nomination, he'll probably step down and support that person.  But if a progressive candidate wins, he'll play spoiler and allow Trump to win so he can keep his tax cuts.

This is why the US needs something like Instant-runoff voting.  :shake:


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Re: Sanders 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Bernie and other progressive candidates have gotten people excited about helping the poor and middle classes by taxing the rich a little more.

But the rich have an answer.  Enter Democratic billionaire Howard Schultz, who says he will run as an independent.  If an establishment democrat wins the democratic party nomination, he'll probably step down and support that person.  But if a progressive candidate wins, he'll play spoiler and allow Trump to win so he can keep his tax cuts.

This is why the US needs something like Instant-runoff voting.  :shake:


Lol... That's pretty funny. Good luck gaining enough traction to matter, dude.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.
"Facts are chiels that winna ding, and downa be disputed" - Robert Burns


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