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Re: Walls do work! [Re: MagicMush123]
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MagicMush123 said:
Asante said:
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Walls do work!


Immigrants do work. What work do walls do?


Lots of very important work. Your home has walls doesn't it? How about you protest trump by removing all your walls :loldongs:


Dumb Statement. Walls work on a house because there is a ceiling and a floor to accompany the wall. The border wall doesn't have a ceiling so you go over it, and if it did then you could still dig under it like they already do in some places.

Supporters of the wall are dumb and racist.

Immigrants are good. Let them all in and make them legal and please let them bring me more drugs!!!

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: Lophosaurus]
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There's current and historical examples of walls working

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: MagicMush123]
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All of Trump's major properties have lots of illegal aliens working there. During the Presidential campaign they had special procedures to take them off the employment rolls (while they continued to work there) because the secret service had to vet all his employees.

    Make America Great Again You Fucking Morons.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: Brian Jones]
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I actually admired him for that. Because he knew the game and how the loop holes needed to be closed.

But the past is the past. I mean, should he fire them now?


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Re: Walls do work! [Re: XUL]
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I don't know but the hard part is going to be when he claims that he doesn't actually know them, like he does with everybody else after they get indicted and rat on him.

    I know he places a high value on loyalty, and in other circumstances I respect that, but has anybody else ever put great trust in this many people, had them turn on him, and then claim he doesn't even know that person.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: XUL]
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Rwally? What loop holes is he closing? The wall doesn’t do shit if the illegals are already here. In fact it makes them far less likely to leave. What are you going to do to get the 11 million that are already here? It would cost hundreds of billions of dollars to hunt them down and deport them.

Let’s not forget these people continued to work at his properties until they were outed by media in the past month. The past isn’t the past.  He is still abusing the system even as he lectures us about the emergency that illegals represent. He’s a fucking fraud.


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Re: Walls do work! [Re: koods]
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Well, I remember way back when he tried to make a deal for DACA, he was going to legalized millions of illegals, but they wouldn't fund the wall.

Support the immigrants, build the wall.


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Re: Walls do work! [Re: XUL]
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You remember wrong. He agreed to a deal for DACA and $25 billion for the wall last year. Then his base went nuts about the DACA deal, and he reneged. The he lost his DACA leverage when the courts said he couldn’t change Obama’s DACA amnesty. Now the Supreme Court has refused to hear the trump appeal, so as we speak the daca program continues. And trump got nothing for the wall. You have to admit he’s really bungled this.

The democrats control the House. He’s not getting money for the wall. He wouldn’t dare shutdown again. I guarantee you will see massive sick outs by federal employees. The reason the shutdown ended was the fact that airports were starting to shutdown Friday morning due to ATC staffing issues. These workers now know they power they wield. They will not sit back and wait a month to flex their muscle.

Trump will probably declare a national emergency. The courts will block him. There will be outrage.

The fundamental problem with trump demanding a wall is he never had majority support for the policy. He lost the popular vote. The people actually rejected his platform, but he ended up becoming president . He’s been acting like his ideas were the most popular. They weren’t and the people are not supporting him. The democrats took the house because the people wanted someone to stop trump. Hes a lame duck. There will be no wall. Pelosi has put her foot down and she is wayyy better at this than trump.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/27/19 06:23 AM)

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Rwally? What loop holes is he closing? The wall doesn’t do shit if the illegals are already here. In fact it makes them far less likely to leave. What are you going to do to get the 11 million that are already here? It would cost hundreds of billions of dollars to hunt them down and deport them.

Let’s not forget these people continued to work at his properties until they were outed by media in the past month. The past isn’t the past.  He is still abusing the system even as he lectures us about the emergency that illegals represent. He’s a fucking fraud.


That's a good point. If they built a wall, the Mexicans who wanted to go back with their American Dollars as they frequently do (as every nationality of immigrant frequently does) they wont be able to get back into Mexico. Damn shortsighted conservatives. They forgot to think this one through. Go figure.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
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It’s not that they won’t be able to get back into Mexico. You can just walk into Mexico. The problem is that there used to be a lot of back and forth. Illegals came to work seasonal jobs or for a limited amount of time then would go home. Then the cycle would repeat. With tougher enforcement, the illegals have decided to stay permanently because they worry about not getting back into US. All the undocumented that I know are here for good now.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said:
MagicMush123 said:
Asante said:
Quote:
Walls do work!


Immigrants do work. What work do walls do?


Lots of very important work. Your home has walls doesn't it? How about you protest trump by removing all your walls :loldongs:


Dumb Statement. Walls work on a house because there is a ceiling and a floor to accompany the wall. The border wall doesn't have a ceiling so you go over it, and if it did then you could still dig under it like they already do in some places.

Supporters of the wall are dumb and racist.

Immigrants are good. Let them all in and make them legal and please let them bring me more drugs!!!


Why would someone be racist for supporting a border wall?  You do realize all nations have borders and laws in regards to it?

"Immigrants are good"

Even if true, that's not the issue here. The US wants to CONTROL the immigration and know who's coming in to the country.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Dumb Statement. Walls work on a house because there is a ceiling and a floor to accompany the wall. The border wall doesn't have a ceiling so you go over it, and if it did then you could still dig under it like they already do in some places.

Supporters of the wall are dumb and racist.

Immigrants are good. Let them all in and make them legal and please let them bring me more drugs!!!


Why would someone be racist for supporting a border wall?  You do realize all nations have borders and laws in regards to it?

"Immigrants are good"

Even if true, that's not the issue here. The US wants to CONTROL the immigration and know who's coming in to the country.


We can control most of the immigration by letting in as many immigrants as possible so we can tax them and for the rest of the border, patrolling works just fine. We have no wall now and everything is fine.

Do you support a Canadian wall? That is the border we should be worried about if we are worried about any border. People who want the wall believe  that immigrants from the South are criminals and inferior people. They think they are going to rape and murder them.

The wall is a big waste of money and it wont do anything. People will go over, under, and through it.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said:
qman said:
Dumb Statement. Walls work on a house because there is a ceiling and a floor to accompany the wall. The border wall doesn't have a ceiling so you go over it, and if it did then you could still dig under it like they already do in some places.

Supporters of the wall are dumb and racist.

Immigrants are good. Let them all in and make them legal and please let them bring me more drugs!!!


Why would someone be racist for supporting a border wall?  You do realize all nations have borders and laws in regards to it?

"Immigrants are good"

Even if true, that's not the issue here. The US wants to CONTROL the immigration and know who's coming in to the country.


We can control most of the immigration by letting in as many immigrants as possible so we can tax them and for the rest of the border, patrolling works just fine. We have no wall now and everything is fine.

Do you support a Canadian wall? That is the border we should be worried about if we are worried about any border. People who want the wall believe  that immigrants from the South are criminals and inferior people. They think they are going to rape and murder them.

The wall is a big waste of money and it wont do anything. People will go over, under, and through it.


What kind of tax revenue do you expect to generate by taxing uneducated/low skilled broke third world migrants?  In fact, they become a NET drain on the tax system, not contributors. That's a fact. :shrug:  I wouldn't call 20 million illegals costing over $100 PER YEAR "everything is fine". :facepalm:

Does the US have a problem with illegal immigration from the North? No, so stop with the theoretical race baiting nonsense.

If you want to argue that a wall isn't the most cost effective method for controlling the border, that's fine, but don't suggest illegal immigration is fine and anyone requesting that the existing immigration laws to be enforced are "racist" or "dumb".

Edited by qman (01/27/19 11:17 AM)

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: Lophosaurus] * 1
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I don’t think a wall is inherently racist. I do think the current demand for a wall is driven by racism. The way trump is whipping up his base demonizing undocumented workers is appealing to racist sentiments and also fueling them. There is no immigration crisis at the southern border. The illegal population in the US has been steady for a decade. It’s all bullshit.

Bullshit numbers



He’s claiming over 8% of the US population is here illegally.

More bullshit





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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/27/19 11:29 AM)

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: koods]
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Does the US have a problem with illegal immigration from the North? No, so stop with the theoretical race baiting nonsense.



Omg I’ve personally known at least a half dozen Canadians who have lived and worked in the US illegally. I bet it’s way more common than anyone knows.  But they’re white and they speak English well enough to pass as American so nobody even notices.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Quote:
Does the US have a problem with illegal immigration from the North? No, so stop with the theoretical race baiting nonsense.



Omg I’ve personally known at least a half dozen Canadians who have lived and worked in the US illegally. I bet it’s way more common than anyone knows.  But they’re white and they speak English well enough to pass as American so nobody even notices.


They should be deported as well, but we both know it's not an issue to be very concerned about.

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Lophosaurus said:
qman said:
Dumb Statement. Walls work on a house because there is a ceiling and a floor to accompany the wall. The border wall doesn't have a ceiling so you go over it, and if it did then you could still dig under it like they already do in some places.

Supporters of the wall are dumb and racist.

Immigrants are good. Let them all in and make them legal and please let them bring me more drugs!!!


Why would someone be racist for supporting a border wall?  You do realize all nations have borders and laws in regards to it?

"Immigrants are good"

Even if true, that's not the issue here. The US wants to CONTROL the immigration and know who's coming in to the country.


We can control most of the immigration by letting in as many immigrants as possible so we can tax them and for the rest of the border, patrolling works just fine. We have no wall now and everything is fine.

Do you support a Canadian wall? That is the border we should be worried about if we are worried about any border. People who want the wall believe  that immigrants from the South are criminals and inferior people. They think they are going to rape and murder them.

The wall is a big waste of money and it wont do anything. People will go over, under, and through it.


What kind of tax revenue do you expect to generate by taxing uneducated/low skilled broke third world migrants?  In fact, they become a NET drain on the tax system, not contributors. That's a fact. :shrug:  I wouldn't call 20 million illegals costing over $100 PER YEAR "everything is fine". :facepalm:

Does the US have a problem with illegal immigration from the North? No, so stop with the theoretical race baiting nonsense.

If you want to argue that a wall isn't the most cost effective method for controlling the border, that's fine, but don't suggest illegal immigration is fine and anyone requesting that the existing immigration laws to be enforced are "racist" or "dumb".


They're coming in anyways, with or without your stupid wall so we might as well let them in and tax them and it will be a lot of tax money. The cheap labor will be great for rebuilding our crumbling country. Remember who built this county. Immigrants.

A wall is not cost effective and I believe I said something along those lines. I don't think I insinuated that illegal immigration is OK. I said we should let them all in legally and patrol the rest of the border.

The Northern border has illegals, drugs, and terrorists coming in too. I've known many illegal Canadians.

Anyone who wants this wall IS dumb and racist. A wall will not work and is a waste of money. Anyone can see that and the experts have said that. You just go over or under it. Keep in mind that plants and animals need that area open for migration and reproducing. How will the animals get through your stupid wall?

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
koods said:
Quote:
Does the US have a problem with illegal immigration from the North? No, so stop with the theoretical race baiting nonsense.



Omg I’ve personally known at least a half dozen Canadians who have lived and worked in the US illegally. I bet it’s way more common than anyone knows.  But they’re white and they speak English well enough to pass as American so nobody even notices.

q 

They should be deported as well, but we both know it's not an issue to be very concerned about.


So illegals from the north are fine, but the ones from the south are a national emergency


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Re: Walls do work! [Re: koods] * 2
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There are a lot of Africans working in the U.S. They got here legally but they have no intention of leaving when their work visas expire. Would you go back to Africa? The employers don't monitor the work visas. When the visas expire they move and change their names and social security numbers for another employer who doesn't care.

    What are we going to build a wall around?

I am incensed by arguments that an immigration wall will keep drugs out. One person can carry millions of dollars worth of heroin, so the economic incentive for the cartels guarantees that this flow will not be stopped one way or another.  If we could keep drugs out of the U.S., we could keep drugs out of prisons. Maybe we should build walls around prisons. Oh yeah...See, this how stupid the argument is.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: Walls do work! [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said:
qman said:
Lophosaurus said:
qman said:
Dumb Statement. Walls work on a house because there is a ceiling and a floor to accompany the wall. The border wall doesn't have a ceiling so you go over it, and if it did then you could still dig under it like they already do in some places.

Supporters of the wall are dumb and racist.

Immigrants are good. Let them all in and make them legal and please let them bring me more drugs!!!


Why would someone be racist for supporting a border wall?  You do realize all nations have borders and laws in regards to it?

"Immigrants are good"

Even if true, that's not the issue here. The US wants to CONTROL the immigration and know who's coming in to the country.


We can control most of the immigration by letting in as many immigrants as possible so we can tax them and for the rest of the border, patrolling works just fine. We have no wall now and everything is fine.

Do you support a Canadian wall? That is the border we should be worried about if we are worried about any border. People who want the wall believe  that immigrants from the South are criminals and inferior people. They think they are going to rape and murder them.

The wall is a big waste of money and it wont do anything. People will go over, under, and through it.


What kind of tax revenue do you expect to generate by taxing uneducated/low skilled broke third world migrants?  In fact, they become a NET drain on the tax system, not contributors. That's a fact. :shrug:  I wouldn't call 20 million illegals costing over $100 PER YEAR "everything is fine". :facepalm:

Does the US have a problem with illegal immigration from the North? No, so stop with the theoretical race baiting nonsense.

If you want to argue that a wall isn't the most cost effective method for controlling the border, that's fine, but don't suggest illegal immigration is fine and anyone requesting that the existing immigration laws to be enforced are "racist" or "dumb".


They're coming in anyways, with or without your stupid wall so we might as well let them in and tax them and it will be a lot of tax money. The cheap labor will be great for rebuilding our crumbling country. Remember who built this county. Immigrants.

A wall is not cost effective and I believe I said something along those lines. I don't think I insinuated that illegal immigration is OK. I said we should let them all in legally and patrol the rest of the border.

The Northern border has illegals, drugs, and terrorists coming in too. I've known many illegal Canadians.

Anyone who wants this wall IS dumb and racist. A wall will not work and is a waste of money. Anyone can see that and the experts have said that. You just go over or under it. Keep in mind that plants and animals need that area open for migration and reproducing. How will the animals get through your stupid wall?


Melt harder :canthelpbutlaugh:

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