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A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK ---
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Hi all, 1st time post here and I wanted to say thanks in advance for all the good info which has set me in the right direction with this great hobby. I wanted to share my take on the MARTHA where I utilized a small ultrasonic/cool mist humidifier inside of a $30 3 tier greenhouse I purchased from Home Depot. For FAE consideration, I strategically cut a small rounded slit into the plastic canopy of the 3 tier housing and backed the humidifier against that slit so that the air intake holes of the humidifier receive fresh air from outside. I then inserted a partial cardboard toilet paper tube into the slit so that the hole stays open to the humidifier intakes located along the bottom curve of the base:
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This allows fresh air exchange without static pressure/ excessive moisture and burden of tubing assembly I see in other prototypes. I have been running IAQ tests inside the chamber using a fairly high-end Particles Plus IAQ meter. The humidity levels were a bit excessive at 1st -but were easily remedied by partially unzipping door just at the bottom tier. CO2 looks great
at 600-700 PPM, temperature is between 74-78 F, RH, stays around 97% -A beautiful NON-condensing environment!
I have my PF classic cakes in there --and once I get comfortable fruiting the cakes this round, I will move on to casing methods.
Please let me know if anything jumps out as needing adjustment or change. I will post updates on my actual yields.
Thanks so much -Happy Holidays!
TheHygienist

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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: TheHygienist]
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Hey!

Looks good!  Mine is virtually the same except I have the humidifier outside the chamber and pumping in air pipes over from the top.

Curious how much you unzip the bottom.  I have not had good fruits in mine and need to get it tuned up.  I think if the temp in my garage comes down to tolerable range it may be ok, if your unzip truck helps with FAE.  But I have a heater in front of it to keep it around 70-72.

Here is my setup.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Journal/426622

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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: SumFunGi]
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cakes are so easy to do that making an entire tent for their low yields is awkward. if it's the way you want to go so be it but

no tent, no humidifier, no cleaning, no maintenance, no dialing in
just cakes in their jar with a ziploc baggie over the top and mist them once a day or so.



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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: bodhisatta]
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Bodhi,

What do you think would happen if we fruited the jars in our tent with a bag on top like you did?  Tent is nice because everything is self contained.  And a lot of us are relegated to the garage.

Just an idea.

What thinketh you?

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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: bodhisatta]
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I find a greenhouse to be kind of overkill for cubes and definitely overkill for cakes. Unless you are doing something like 1000 quarts of spawn every other week and need the ergonomics and clean up afforded by a tray or bag in a greenhouse, so it’s a bit like smashing flies with a sledgehammer. If you are doing that amount you would probably also want a fruiting room, something like 12’x10’ or so.

However a little Martha will be a nice thing to have if you decide you want to dabble in exotics or gourmet species on a small scale later. That would make the build worthwhile. But for a handful of cube cakes that is definitely a lot more money and work than I would be willing to invest.


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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: SumFunGi]
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since it would be humid outside the bag an inside the bag there would probably be less air exchange and evaporation happening, probably would work, maybe not as well


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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: Pastywhyte]
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I used to top fruit bottles and cakes in a monotub. Easy.



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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: Pastywhyte]
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yea I would say just put them in the GH but don't operate the GH like a GH just use it as a closet


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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: SumFunGi]
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Nice, Thanks --yes def looks solid. The only thing that I can see of yours that might be worth saying is you might not trust a digital hygrometer or thermometer for fine tuning. The disparity between my $30 digital combo hyg/therm and my calibrated analog Fischer is 25- 35 % (the Fischer hyg is +/- 4% from my $ 8000 IAQ meter I use for work. I unzipped the door up to the mid shelf and stuck an open tub of damp perlite on the bottom shelf to add moisture source and to further semi-contain the environment. Using the professional IAQ meter I was able to datalog over a day to show FAE to be adequate via the humidifier and unsealed bottom alone (no fans or additional holes or separate air pump). I can now run the humidifier constantly without creating condensation which may have more to do with very evenly balances ambient temperatures. . I do fan and mist from time to time only because I hope to occasion pinning through evaporation but I may experiment with set and forget soon as the shine of this hobby wears off a bit.

Have you tried isolating your setup in your garage to create a separate little room for the purpose of balancing your inner/outer temps? You could probably do it quite cheaply and that would eliminate condensation issues that arise in humid air contacting colder surfaces. It's actually the reason I avoided my garage but was also open to engineering a solution if it had to be. I dont share my bathroom though so I went with that;)
Good luck and please keep posting with your controls and results.

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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: TheHygienist]
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If your relegated to a garage even better grow potent wood lovers in flower pots.


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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Overkill at 60$ and less than 2 hours of construction modification work?  You get a highly adaptable very low maintenance system that should last -and be available for future endeavors that will include bulk casing techniques:smile:

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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: TheHygienist]
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TheHygienist said:
Overkill at 60$ and less than 2 hours of construction modification work?  You get a highly adaptable very low maintenance system that should last -and be available for future endeavors that will include bulk casing techniques:)


I can build a monotub for $10 bucks in 5 min. Low maintenance? Monotubs are set and forget once you get the process dialed in. Come back in 2 weeks to harvest.


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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: TheHygienist]
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Good call on the temp gauge/ hygrometer...  my humidistat has a much more accurate reading.  I just wanted an idea of temperature...  most times of the year, temp won’t be an issue.  I may invest in one of a better quality, but for now I’m ok.

I ditched the perlite, and went with a heavy duty trash bag with a hole in the center and a rock weighing down the excess water to flow into a drip pan.

I think you should pump in your humidity...  same concept of FAE, and will keep it running longer than keeping it in your GH.  I recommend not putting it in the exact center, maybe towards the back wall would be best...  the PVC drips occasionally, so I have to avoid the center of the GH.

Keep me posted on your grow.

I’m actually having good success ( better than cakes in the GH by putting a tub filled with wet verm..  basically an HC, but have the top removed.  My fruits are a lot thicker and healthier looking.  I may move them all to the tub tonight...  that is...  after I inoculate another 20 BRF cakes I sterilized last night.

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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: Pastywhyte]
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I like engineering/optimizing things -I actually had fun creating this and it's just nice to walk by it each time I piss and see how my babies are doing! Perhaps when I'm an old pro like you I'll bee more keen to set and forget it!
Thanks Guys for great input ---I'm looking forward to sharing the results. Happy Holidays!

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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: TheHygienist]
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TheHygienist said:
I like engineering/optimizing things -I actually had fun creating this and it's just nice to walk by it each time I piss and see how my babies are doing! Perhaps when I'm an old pro like you I'll bee more keen to set and forget it!
Thanks Guys for great input ---I'm looking forward to sharing the results. Happy Holidays!


Most people need to be familiar with the organism before they can optimize anything. But you do you, could be that out of the 1000’s of people that fail first time up to bat on projects like this, you may be the exception. Good luck.


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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: TheHygienist]
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I’m with you dude!!  But I’m telling you, I had your same optimism until I birthed my cakes...  then I realized there may be beauty in simplicity :smile:

Doesn’t mean I’m giving up on the tent...  but just don’t have high expectations on yield until you can figure it all out :smile:

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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: TheHygienist]
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TheHygienist said:
I may experiment with set and forget soon as the shine of this hobby wears off a bit.



It'll be a while before that happens. I thought after my first flush id be less crazy. But now I'm more crazy. It's a good crazy. None the less. What i think these fine gents here are trying to say is the Martha is effective for bulk tray and bag fruiting (bags for gourmet like oysters) but when it comes to BRF cakes there are much simpler ways to fruit them.

This may be a test run that's cool too. If you want to stick with BRF check out Bod's easy AF shoebox Tek. Just my  :2cents:


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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: Atleastdoyourbest]
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I think I may have cornered the market on crazy ideas in this hobby. Shit I spawned a bathtub for fucks sake.


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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: Pastywhyte]
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I would say you should learn how to grow 8oz from a tub set and forget before trying to design a fruiting chamber.


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Re: A noobs [and industrial hygienist's] take on Martha TEK --- [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said:
I think I may have cornered the market on crazy ideas in this hobby. Shit I spawned a bathtub for fuck's sake.


Let's not overlook the Towelie Tek now! Next level experiment.


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