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Would you be willing to defend your homeland if needed?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from 11/01/18 01:12 PM until the end of time
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Edited by Near Dylan (01/26/26 10:37 PM)

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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Near Dylan]
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I don't see what the whole problem against fascism is. Yes you have retards like Hitler and Mussolini but you also had the likes of Mosley, Jan Baars and others that saw it is a legitimate form of government if combined correctly with other systems. Mosley wanted to retain parliament and Jan Baars rejected both National Socialism and Antisemitism.

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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
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I accept all people, even if they like hot wheels. But, some hotwheels are NOT cool. Tonka trucks are out. Army men are in. No paintballs, fuckers!

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhjjjn


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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: XUL]
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I already have. :shrug:

The people are too dumb to have my support in political matters now.


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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: XUL] * 1
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What you're describing sounds more like martial law than fascism.
A benevolent dictator would be preferable to either, and I'll throw my hat in the ring and promise to remain benevolent for a good 7 or 8 hours.

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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Lootje]
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lol


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Edited by Near Dylan (01/26/26 10:37 PM)

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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: MycoMinded]
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^true!

But where military dictatorship rules, fadcists follow.

The military and a lot of folks that never did get enough death, would love such to be a reality.  Because it's power and power is the freedom to do bad things!

Most people I've met who were serious military operators are mentally ill people.  Usually heavy drinkers and get so blinded by selfish morality, they do bad things and feel great.  They were trained to do wrong with judtification.

I see cops and all do gooders as the same here.  They have such strong feelings they feel all acts are justified.  They built a nation on genocide and slavery.  Why stop there?


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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: King Klick]
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Murica.


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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Morel Guy]
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^true was meant for mycominded.


I don't think extremism is ever good.

This whole political division in the states is showing were the real conservatives are, and who's fascistly opposed to keeping cool.

Beliefs are dangerous.


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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Near Dylan]
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Near Dylan said:
I don't see fascism as a legitimate form of government' for any situation outside of wartime or war preparation. It is an ideology almost entirely centered on warfare and preparation for conflict. Which is a big reason why Franco's Spain not entirely seen as "Fascist", and was more of an ideology all it's own.

You are right that the leader brings the value of the ideology, and it's all revolved around them. Fascism under a perfect leader could lead to the most prosperous country of all time. Fascism under the wrong leader can lead to the worst country of all time. If you look at a common example, the Roman Empire saw it's golden years under great emperors, and it's dark years under terrible ones. Which is why authoritarian ideologies do not have longevity. If you get the right leader, then you got it good until he dies. If the next guy is the wrong leader, then you might be in hell for a whole generation.

The idea of modern empires itself would never hold up to public opinion in the modern age, anyway. Not in any first or second world country. The voice of the people is too powerful, and they'll never let you take it away unless there was a horde at the doorstep.

In relation to the main question, I believe that Fascism is a viable emergency provisional government form. For example, I think if France had embraced Fascism in, say, 1938, they would've had the morale and national unity, not to mention manpower and supplies, to hold the Germans back in the lowland countries. But that's hindsight for ya.


Totally agree with you on the having a good leader part. It's essential for fascism and not many people can get it right (even it's founder). However to say it's just for war and conflict is wrong. Mosley campaigned extensively against entering WW2. He saw the horrors of the first and didn't want his countrymen getting shot to pieces again. He advocated for fascism because it is an ideology that if practiced correctly unites the people and strengthens the country. It is an ideology that gets things done, and that's the problem I have with modern democracies. It divides the people and leads to infighting, look at the climate in America now for example.

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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Lootje]
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Oh ya that's all democratss or retard in chief spewing horseshit lies?

Just watch brazil.  They will have a civil war.

I guess you all think hitler did a good job because he united Germany?


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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Lootje]
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lol


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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Near Dylan]
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America usually wants war when it's a republican in office.  They haven't surrendered yet.  They will, some day if they keep it up.

But essiently this thread is discussing treason.


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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
Oh ya that's all democratss or retard in chief spewing horseshit lies?

Just watch brazil.  They will have a civil war.

I guess you all think hitler did a good job because he united Germany?


“The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” And yea objectively speaking Hitler was a great politician and orator. He helped Germany out of the shitter and turned it into a world power. But the Holocaust was a crime against humanity no doubt.

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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Near Dylan]
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I'll have to use an argument that the commies like and say: ''My VerSiON Of FaScISm HaSN't BeeN TrIeD BeFOrE.'' And yea England needed to declare war, I was pointing out that Fascists don't always just want to steamroll everything in sight.

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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
America usually wants war when it's a republican in office.  They haven't surrendered yet.  They will, some day if they keep it up.

But essiently this thread is discussing treason.



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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
But essiently this thread is discussing treason.


Huh?


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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
Oh ya that's all democratss or retard in chief spewing horseshit lies?

Just watch brazil.  They will have a civil war.

I guess you all think hitler did a good job because he united Germany?


I don't think Brazil will have a civil war but I do think they'll be in such bad shape in a few years that they'll envy Venezuela.
I don't believe fascism serves any good purpose, especially in a country the size of the US. We've more or less won 2 world wars by appealing to people's sense of decency. I'm not saying that we were wrong or right to get into them in the first place, just that we have (or had) higher standards.
I'm not touching the hitler reference.

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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: MycoMinded]
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Re: Could you ever accept Fascism? [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
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Welp this thread went about as predicted.


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