Near Dylan said:

I don't see fascism as a legitimate form of government' for any situation outside of wartime or war preparation. It is an ideology almost entirely centered on warfare and preparation for conflict. Which is a big reason why Franco's Spain not entirely seen as "Fascist", and was more of an ideology all it's own.

You are right that the leader brings the value of the ideology, and it's all revolved around them. Fascism under a perfect leader could lead to the most prosperous country of all time. Fascism under the wrong leader can lead to the worst country of all time. If you look at a common example, the Roman Empire saw it's golden years under great emperors, and it's dark years under terrible ones. Which is why authoritarian ideologies do not have longevity. If you get the right leader, then you got it good until he dies. If the next guy is the wrong leader, then you might be in hell for a whole generation.

The idea of modern empires itself would never hold up to public opinion in the modern age, anyway. Not in any first or second world country. The voice of the people is too powerful, and they'll never let you take it away unless there was a horde at the doorstep.

In relation to the main question, I believe that Fascism is a viable emergency provisional government form. For example, I think if France had embraced Fascism in, say, 1938, they would've had the morale and national unity, not to mention manpower and supplies, to hold the Germans back in the lowland countries. But that's hindsight for ya.

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Morel Guy said:

Oh ya that's all democratss or retard in chief spewing horseshit lies?

Just watch brazil.  They will have a civil war.

I guess you all think hitler did a good job because he united Germany?

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Morel Guy said:

America usually wants war when it's a republican in office.  They haven't surrendered yet.  They will, some day if they keep it up.

But essiently this thread is discussing treason.

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Morel Guy said:

But essiently this thread is discussing treason.

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Morel Guy said:

Oh ya that's all democratss or retard in chief spewing horseshit lies?

Just watch brazil.  They will have a civil war.

I guess you all think hitler did a good job because he united Germany?

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The Ecstatic said:

Welp this thread went about as predicted.

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Near Dylan said:

Asante said:

Whats fascist to you?

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To put it as simple and in as little words as possible: Abolishment of elections, silencing of political unrest and potential opposition, martial law ready at a moments notice, militarization of society, hyperindustrialization, transition from civilian to war economy, etc. Authoritarian nationalist state dedicated entirely to maintaining order and protecting the borders.

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The Ecstatic said:

lol who cares if minorities and political dissidents get genocided if I can more casually smoke weed?

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TinyBee said:

The Ecstatic said:

lol who cares if minorities and political dissidents get genocided if I can more casually smoke weed?

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Your comment is neither here nor there.  Nobody is advocating genocides.  Furthermore, genocides are not an inherent part of fascism.

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Near Dylan said:

Genocide is not a requirement of fascism lol.

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