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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: MeanGreen]
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Someone claims kratom killed the cramps...


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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: MeanGreen]
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MeanGreen said:
... first try, the effects should be more immediate and you can manage your dose more easily by smoking more or less tokes.



You got that huge bush and you never tried it... sounds like me with the Sallies and the - by now - heaps of dried leaves :rolleyes:


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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: purplegills]
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purplegills said:
Thanks so much. Really intrigued. Makes sense to get dried stuff until these babies grow?


No problem! You never know what you're getting with dried stuff, so I'd be cautious. I think most of the effects are brought on by fresh leaf.

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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: MeanGreen]
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MeanGreen said:
KannaKris, did you consume it as a tea or did you smoke some?
I'm kinda hoping the smoking route doesn't cause the cramps, I think from the erowid reports I didn't see any where cramps were reported and the ROI was smoking.

When I try my extract I'll probably try to roll a joint mixed with tobacco. Seems like it would be safer for a first try, the effects should be more immediate and you can manage your dose more easily by smoking more or less tokes.




I actually first tried it about 10 years ago by smoking. I got absolutely nothing from that route, but then again, who knows how old mine was. I acquired it in a trade. Please do report the effects if you do smoke the extract! Inquiring minds want to know, like me :yesnod:

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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: purplegills]
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purplegills said:
Someone claims kratom killed the cramps...


Hmm, maybe you should try a mixture of the two?

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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: KannaKris]
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KannaKris said:
purplegills said:
Someone claims kratom killed the cramps...


Hmm, maybe you should try a mixture of the two?


Well, I have no kratom. I just put it here for everyone else's viewing pleasure and careful consideration :tongue2:

I'll try Heimia alone, if and when my babies get big enough. I assume that even with five of them it's safe to say it won't be this year...


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Edited by purplegills (07/26/18 03:28 PM)

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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: purplegills]
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purplegills said:
MeanGreen said:
... first try, the effects should be more immediate and you can manage your dose more easily by smoking more or less tokes.



You got that huge bush and you never tried it... sounds like me with the Sallies and the - by now - heaps of dried leaves :rolleyes:


Haha yeah, the cramps fear is too strong. I'm kinda the same with Sally too, I got huge bags of leaves but rarely partake. It was my first psychedelic after marijuana as a kid though, so I have a lot of respect for it. Next time I try it I want to chew fresh leaves.

If you've never ever tried Salvia, you really should pack a fat bowl of leaf right now! All you have to lose is 5min of your time, and it's very hard to get to scary places with just plain leaf.


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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: MeanGreen]
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I did have threshold experiences twice, by chewing fresh leaf.

I have enough leaf to chew much more but I somehow haven't been ready to really go for it yet, like I actually mean it... Taste is not an issue... I've had much more vile tasting things in my life (San Pedro comes to my mind), so, technically I could chew Sally leaves day in day out. But I'm a bit reluctant to do it just yet.

I haven't even thought of smoking it yet either because 1) I have nothing to smoke it with and 2) I'm not sure how I feel about burning something sacred. To me it's just wrong. Actually, plain rude :tongue2:. For now anyway...


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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: purplegills]
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purplegills said:
KannaKris said:
purplegills said:
Someone claims kratom killed the cramps...


Hmm, maybe you should try a mixture of the two?


I'll try Heimia alone, if and when my babies get big enough. I assume that even with five of them it's safe to say it won't be this year...



Well, I know, I still have a good three or more months left in my growing season. What zone are you in? You may have enough time to get them big enough for at least one trip.

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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: KannaKris]
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Well, I know, I still have a good three or more months left in my growing season. What zone are you in? You may have enough time to get them big enough for at least one trip.


Days get short rather fast on my latitude. I think I have until September. I'd expect frost probably end of October, and hard frost in November. Very few daylight hours in October already.


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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: purplegills]
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Yeah, thta's exactly how it works here too!

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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: KannaKris]
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I had about 40 sprouts come up 5 days ago, now dead. I have no clue what I did wrong unless it's just to damn hot 95 today.


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Had I the heavens' embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.

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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: HappyHigh]
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If thy were new sprouts, then it was likely the heat sadly.

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Re: Heimia Salicifolia (Sinicuichi) [Re: durian_2008]
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durian_2008 said:
Solipsis said:
I was mistaken about it being an oneirogen and made that mistake years ago too.. just a mixup.



For dream recall.

Some had said that they could recall memories, from with the womb.


That's cool but I'm claustrophobic, hence the C-section


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    :ahahaha:

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