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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: musiclover420]
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Did you read the link?

Not yet in the White House but working the phones as if he were, Barack Obama won a crucial Senate vote Thursday clearing the release of $350 billion more in bailout funds from the Treasury Department’s controversial financial rescue program.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Which means that if Trump wants a high score, he need s to get $351B in bailouts out to companies.

So far, they seem to be going to his and his friend's companies, though. Not the banks that control the very existence of money.

One seems to fund the necessary evils in society, and the other seems to fund himself. Oh, feel free to rail against banks some more, and argue that they;re unnecessary evils. Then try buying gas with a cabbage. Or a wheelbarrow of cabbage.

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: qman]
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qman said:
koods said:
qman said:
What's good for Main Street sometimes isn't good for Wall Street, why are you siding with the Fat Cats instead of Joe Six-Pack? 

I thought "liberals" wanted to stick it to Wall Street one day? Oh let me guess, it's not cool if Trump is doing it.  :rofl2:


It’s not good for joe six pack. The problem is joe six pack is an ignorant moron and voted for someone who doesn’t understand economics. The rest of the world learned that tarrifs do not benefit anyone decades ago.

You thought liberals want to stick it to Wall Street? Again, you are wrong. Liberals just want wall street to be held responsible when they commit crimes. If you’re Mexican and you commit a misdemeanor you lose your kids. If you’re a banker you get a bailout after committing a billion dollar fraud.


The rest of world has benefited at the expense of the US working class, what did Obama do for them? Not a dam thing.

If the rest of the world thinks tariffs are so bad, why do they use them while the US doesn't?  I don't think you even understand what's going on.


Some countries still use tarrifs to fund their governments, as the US did until 100 years ago.

Almost all modern economies use tarrifs sparingly.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: koods] * 1
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Well, back then we didn't have taxes. With the deficit though, we'll need both.

It's like one of those big, floppy, latex, double-dongs.

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: SirTripAlot]
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SirTripAlot said:
Did you read the link?

Not yet in the White House but working the phones as if he were, Barack Obama won a crucial Senate vote Thursday clearing the release of $350 billion more in bailout funds from the Treasury Department’s controversial financial rescue program.


Which link there have been like 2-3+.

Why not quote that part to confirm it for us all?

Also how would Obama win a senate vote on a move started by Bush? That seems weird.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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SirTripAlot said:
koods said:
SirTripAlot said:
(shhhh) don't say Obama and the bailouts.


It was the Bush administration, not Obama’s, that bailed out the banks.

How are people so ignorant of recent history?


Or how can one be ignorant of the implementation of the bailouts? Your saying Obama couldn't stop prior presidents actions. Want me to show you where he said 'it was "necessary"

The majority of money and time was under Obama s watch, but you know that.

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/obama-gets-first-major-win-with-tarp-017504


That article was written on 1/15/2009. Obama wasn’t even president yet. Those were the days. When a president elect wasn’t trying to undermine the current president’s policies.  When the bailout bill passed, he hadn’t even been elected.

You’re also assuming I don’t agree with the bailouts. I think it was the right move. That doesn’t change the fact that you seem to be ascribing the bailouts to Obama when it wasn’t his bill because he wasn’t president.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
It's like one of those big, floppy, latex, double-dongs.


Except tariffs are bad.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Kryptos said:
It's like one of those big, floppy, latex, double-dongs.


Except tariffs are bad.


So are big and floppy latex double dongs. By comparison to reality.

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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Kryptos said:
koods said:
Kryptos said:
It's like one of those big, floppy, latex, double-dongs.


Except tariffs are bad.


So are big and floppy latex double dongs. By comparison to reality.



Trevor Moore: The Story of Our Times - "My Computer Just Became Self Aware" - Uncensored

Quote:
If we're gonna time travel
We should do something good
Like try to stop racism
Or help our fellow man
So we went to the past and picked up Harriet Tubman
We got a huge strap-on, attached it to her crotch
Then we fucked Hitler and made Eva Braun watch
"Don't be racist," we said as we both flew away
Through history, finding bad guys and making 'em pay


:rofldrunk:


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: musiclover420]
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musiclover420 said:
qman said:
koods said:
Quote:
The US economy is fine, my main concern is the working class.


If you support tarrifs you don’t give a shit about the working class. We have known for decades the kinds of policies trump is enacting do not achieve his goals. He’s an idiot and you’re falling for his 5th grade understanding of how the world works.


Don't worry, all of this talk about economic tariffs is just theater.

It would cost the people in power incredible amounts of money, not gonna happen.


Sure, just like all the times the white house has assured the public "trump is just kidding" only for it to turn out he was totally serious....

qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The US economy is fine, my main concern is the working class.


Lmao how can you say the US economy is fine?


On a relative basis, it's true. The stock, bond and real estate markets are near all-time highs, and the US dollar is once again the best shirt in a dirty laundry bag.

Obviously, the US worker has no wage growth and mountains of debt. The people in power have what they want, low growth, low inflation, low commodity prices and no wage pressure.


Yes it started doing better, under obama after he fixed some of Bush's mess. Trump is already steering us back down again if things continue this way... But at least the next recession will hit in time to blame a democrat just like last time :facepalm3:


There's absolutely no difference between the Obama and Trump economy. Maybe that will change down the road, but for now it's all the same.

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: qman]
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qman said:
There's absolutely no difference between the Obama and Trump economy. Maybe that will change down the road, but for now it's all the same.


That is my point. Obama fixed bush's mess, trump has tried taking credit for the current economy even though like you said there has been little to no difference, if anything seems there has been a negative difference thanks to trump...


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


Edited by musiclover420 (06/19/18 10:04 PM)

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: koods]
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koods said:
qman said:
koods said:
qman said:
What's good for Main Street sometimes isn't good for Wall Street, why are you siding with the Fat Cats instead of Joe Six-Pack? 

I thought "liberals" wanted to stick it to Wall Street one day? Oh let me guess, it's not cool if Trump is doing it.  :rofl2:


It’s not good for joe six pack. The problem is joe six pack is an ignorant moron and voted for someone who doesn’t understand economics. The rest of the world learned that tarrifs do not benefit anyone decades ago.

You thought liberals want to stick it to Wall Street? Again, you are wrong. Liberals just want wall street to be held responsible when they commit crimes. If you’re Mexican and you commit a misdemeanor you lose your kids. If you’re a banker you get a bailout after committing a billion dollar fraud.


The rest of world has benefited at the expense of the US working class, what did Obama do for them? Not a dam thing.

If the rest of the world thinks tariffs are so bad, why do they use them while the US doesn't?  I don't think you even understand what's going on.


Some countries still use tarrifs to fund their governments, as the US did until 100 years ago.

Almost all modern economies use tarrifs sparingly.


China and others emerging economies use tariffs. I don't take issue with trade with developed economies, it's with China, Mexico and others.

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: qman]
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koods said:
Kryptos said:
It's like one of those big, floppy, latex, double-dongs.


Except tariffs are bad.


So are big and floppy latex double dongs. By comparison to reality.



Trevor Moore: The Story of Our Times - "My Computer Just Became Self Aware" - Uncensored

Quote:
If we're gonna time travel
We should do something good
Like try to stop racism
Or help our fellow man
So we went to the past and picked up Harriet Tubman
We got a huge strap-on, attached it to her crotch
Then we fucked Hitler and made Eva Braun watch
"Don't be racist," we said as we both flew away
Through history, finding bad guys and making 'em pay


:rofldrunk:


That's only a single dong, not a double dong.

I'm thinking more along the lines of:
t=19


qman said:
koods said:
Quote:
The US economy is fine, my main concern is the working class.


If you support tarrifs you don’t give a shit about the working class. We have known for decades the kinds of policies trump is enacting do not achieve his goals. He’s an idiot and you’re falling for his 5th grade understanding of how the world works.


Don't worry, all of this talk about economic tariffs is just theater.

It would cost the people in power incredible amounts of money, not gonna happen.


Sure, just like all the times the white house has assured the public "trump is just kidding" only for it to turn out he was totally serious....

qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The US economy is fine, my main concern is the working class.


Lmao how can you say the US economy is fine?


On a relative basis, it's true. The stock, bond and real estate markets are near all-time highs, and the US dollar is once again the best shirt in a dirty laundry bag.

Obviously, the US worker has no wage growth and mountains of debt. The people in power have what they want, low growth, low inflation, low commodity prices and no wage pressure.


Yes it started doing better, under obama after he fixed some of Bush's mess. Trump is already steering us back down again if things continue this way... But at least the next recession will hit in time to blame a democrat just like last time :facepalm3:


There's absolutely no difference between the Obama and Trump economy. Maybe that will change down the road, but for now it's all the same.


One stabilized a hungover economy, the other gave it cocaine instead. Now we'll see the hangover.

I'm seriously considering voting Trump 2020 because I wanna watch the re

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: koods]
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koods said:
SirTripAlot said:
koods said:
SirTripAlot said:
(shhhh) don't say Obama and the bailouts.


It was the Bush administration, not Obama’s, that bailed out the banks.

How are people so ignorant of recent history?


Or how can one be ignorant of the implementation of the bailouts? Your saying Obama couldn't stop prior presidents actions. Want me to show you where he said 'it was "necessary"

The majority of money and time was under Obama s watch, but you know that.

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/obama-gets-first-major-win-with-tarp-017504


That article was written on 1/15/2009. Obama wasn’t even president yet. Those were the days. When a president elect wasn’t trying to undermine the current president’s policies.  When the bailout bill passed, he hadn’t even been elected.

You’re also assuming I don’t agree with the bailouts. I think it was the right move. That doesn’t change the fact that you seem to be ascribing the bailouts to Obama when it wasn’t his bill because he wasn’t president.


No shit, did you read the article, it states that, first paragraph. It also states  Obama secured more funds for TARP....So you agree with the bailouts Bush passed as you were so forthright in saying? Please clarify this statement then, if you are for the bailouts:

"You thought liberals want to stick it to Wall Street? Again, you are wrong. Liberals just want wall street to be held responsible when they commit crimes. If you’re Mexican and you commit a misdemeanor you lose your kids. If you’re a banker you get a bailout after committing a billion dollar fraud."


--------------------
“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: qman]
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qman said:
koods said:
qman said:
koods said:
It’s not good for joe six pack. The problem is joe six pack is an ignorant moron and voted for someone who doesn’t understand economics. The rest of the world learned that tarrifs do not benefit anyone decades ago.

You thought liberals want to stick it to Wall Street? Again, you are wrong. Liberals just want wall street to be held responsible when they commit crimes. If you’re Mexican and you commit a misdemeanor you lose your kids. If you’re a banker you get a bailout after committing a billion dollar fraud.


The rest of world has benefited at the expense of the US working class, what did Obama do for them? Not a dam thing.

If the rest of the world thinks tariffs are so bad, why do they use them while the US doesn't?  I don't think you even understand what's going on.


Some countries still use tarrifs to fund their governments, as the US did until 100 years ago.

Almost all modern economies use tarrifs sparingly.


China and others emerging economies use tariffs. I don't take issue with trade with developed economies, it's with China, Mexico and others.


We have a free trade agreement with Mexico. What tarriffs do they impose on US imports? As far as I can tell they are all retaliation


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: SirTripAlot]
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SirTripAlot said:
koods said:
SirTripAlot said:
koods said:
It was the Bush administration, not Obama’s, that bailed out the banks.

How are people so ignorant of recent history?


Or how can one be ignorant of the implementation of the bailouts? Your saying Obama couldn't stop prior presidents actions. Want me to show you where he said 'it was "necessary"

The majority of money and time was under Obama s watch, but you know that.

https://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/obama-gets-first-major-win-with-tarp-017504


That article was written on 1/15/2009. Obama wasn’t even president yet. Those were the days. When a president elect wasn’t trying to undermine the current president’s policies.  When the bailout bill passed, he hadn’t even been elected.

You’re also assuming I don’t agree with the bailouts. I think it was the right move. That doesn’t change the fact that you seem to be ascribing the bailouts to Obama when it wasn’t his bill because he wasn’t president.


No shit, did you read the article, it states that, first paragraph. It also states  Obama secured more funds for TARP....So you agree with the bailouts Bush passed as you were so forthright in saying? Please clarify this statement then, if you are for the bailouts:

"You thought liberals want to stick it to Wall Street? Again, you are wrong. Liberals just want wall street to be held responsible when they commit crimes. If you’re Mexican and you commit a misdemeanor you lose your kids. If you’re a banker you get a bailout after committing a billion dollar fraud."


Didn’t say the bailouts weren’t necessary. What I’m saying is that getting a bailout was the only thing that happened to Wall Street fraudsters


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: koods]
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what the hell is this MAGA thing everyone keeps saying?


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When telling the truth becomes an act of treason, and society chooses delusion and deception over fundamental reality, you've been invaded and infiltrated by other beings that have now integrated into your country and community.  Bless our reptile overlords who control, harvest, and eat us.

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: sprinkles]
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It means America is a mediocre country


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (06/20/18 05:45 AM)

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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: koods] * 1
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It is


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Re: Trump's "easy to win" trade war wipes out 2018 DOW gains [Re: koods]
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that be AIAMC not MAGA?  why come everyone knows but me?  is this old people discrimination?



I cant wait till I hit 40 and look like 65.  then I can get away with stuff.  Like go exploring and wandering on peoples private property pretending to be lost.  Or make people repeat themselves 300x then ask why they are talking so loud.  Walk REEEEEALLY slow or stop when crossing the street in front of cars, then when someone tries to help I'll run.  that will be the funnest time ever.  I hope I can remember to do all this shit since I already got the early dementias.


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When telling the truth becomes an act of treason, and society chooses delusion and deception over fundamental reality, you've been invaded and infiltrated by other beings that have now integrated into your country and community.  Bless our reptile overlords who control, harvest, and eat us.

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