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Invisiblepuscle
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HOLLWOOD GOES TO WAR
    #1402566 - 03/23/03 08:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming
about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming
the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone
who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid",
"morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she

hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.

So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's
look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant", "moronic" leaders,
and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University
and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for
the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business
in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was
elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote,
27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties,
240 of 254, than any modern Republican other than Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see the truth.)

Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both
in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science
Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's
primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign
leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of
Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public
schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he
earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY
and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in
June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business
Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's
Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished
Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal.
Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he
holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country.
(Note: He retired as Four Star General in the United States Army)

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on
Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval
aviator; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59;
U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director
of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living
Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential
Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House
Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of
Defense, 1975-77.

Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class family
in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and
was in private practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in
Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice
enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with
a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's
Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University
of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced
degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American
Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from
Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the
University of Notre Dame in 1995.



I think that the Hollywood stars have the right to express their opinions. However, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:

Barbra Streisand : Completed high school Career: Singing and acting.

Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting.

Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting.

Jessica Lange: Dropped out college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting.

Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal. Career:
Acting.

Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting.

Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting.

Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in
Washington, D.C. Career: Acting.

Ed Asner; Completed High school. Career: Acting.

George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting.

Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career:
Movie Director.

Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting.

Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting.

Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting.

Janeane Garofelo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne.

Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting.

While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we
should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even
hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to
information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the
threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting
governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI,
Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies
around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of
the threats because we watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any
way as informed as our leaders.

These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding
groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country.
They only have a deep seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers
were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was
heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its
own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed, by freedom-hating terrorists,
while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war. Why the
change? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the White House.



Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the
Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE,
FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze
the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world
peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, there is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.

So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that
since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine
the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war
and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when herecently
thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell uswe
were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn
fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away
from war? Does he believe that his High School Diploma gives him the knowledge
(and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of
their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!

It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves
about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the
freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know
peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism
striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains
strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them.

Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and
join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He
stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn
around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the
strong belief of President Ronald Reagan


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Re: HOLLWOOD GOES TO WAR [Re: puscle]
    #1402601 - 03/23/03 09:08 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Very good post.

You make a very good point. But it fails to convince me that the war, as it is being waged, is right. And comparing Iraq to the Nazi machine will always seem foolish to me.


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I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!


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Re: HOLLWOOD GOES TO WAR [Re: puscle]
    #1402614 - 03/23/03 09:15 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard

to get out of going to vietnam and being a real soldier, like tom ridge was. and he wasn't a good soldier. he was disciplined for being awol.

He began his career in the oil and gas businessin Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986.

where he squandered the company his daddy gave him and drove it to bankruptcy.

that description of dick cheney was really reaching. it's essentially a job description. his accomplishments aren't very spectacular. and he's a tool.

i respect the accomplishments of colin powell, tom ridge, and condoleezza rice. they're not the ones making the decisions. they're doing their job and serving their president.

bush and cheney are clowns.

They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies
around the world.


whos advise they have been notorious for ignoring and selectively listening to.

Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the White House.

please.

It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, there is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm.
They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.

wrong. they very much would like saddam to disarm. that's why they want time for weapons inspections. they don't want this war, like this, right now. they don't believe that he should be "left alone in his quest for weapons of mass destruction".

The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc.

like who? some of those celebrities have had drug problems in the past. so what if they've had divorces? scrapes with the law? like who and for what? drug offenses most likely.

drug abuse - george bush used cocaine.

alcoholism- george bush was an alcoholic

scrapes with the law- in the national guard, bush was disciplined for going awol.
be also got busted for driving drunk.

Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace.

no it's not.

We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan

hahahahahahaha.







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