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 Tipote
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where are our reparations for not being racist?! #reparationsnow #slavery #thoughtpolice #wewillovercome
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qman
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Racism becomes bad when white people have to undergo 'stop being so racist' classes at work to protect their employer from lawsuits.
Have you attended the mandatory 'stop abusing your female partner' and 'stop abusing young children' classes yet? As straight white males, shouldn't we both under go this training. What's the problem with it?
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Tipote
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Where is the "racism" on this forum? There isn't any.
If Bubbles is all "jewish conspiracy" this and "holocaust" that and is regularly posting antisemitic cartoons, memes etc, and even posts "#Hitlerisright".. Am I really jumping to conclusions that he is a Nazi?
You calling Bubbles a Nazi is the same as others calling qman a racist. Just because they behave like Nazis/racists, doesn't mean they really are Nazis/racists if they don't accept they are in their own minds. 
difference is that qman is in denial or not open to admit it, Bubbles is relatively open about it.
if you believe a thing but reject the label of people who believe that thing, does that mean you aren't that label?
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qman
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 Re: Nazism explained  [Re: qman]
#25278859 - 06/19/18 01:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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How is "racism" or "Nazism" promoted on this site? Never got an answer. 
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qman
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Re: Nazism explained [Re: Tipote]
#25278864 - 06/19/18 01:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Where is the "racism" on this forum? There isn't any.
If Bubbles is all "jewish conspiracy" this and "holocaust" that and is regularly posting antisemitic cartoons, memes etc, and even posts "#Hitlerisright".. Am I really jumping to conclusions that he is a Nazi?
You calling Bubbles a Nazi is the same as others calling qman a racist. Just because they behave like Nazis/racists, doesn't mean they really are Nazis/racists if they don't accept they are in their own minds.
difference is that qman is in denial or not open to admit it, Bubbles is relatively open about it.
if you believe a thing but reject the label of people who believe that thing, does that mean you aren't that label?
Transsexuals seem to believe in that reality and people like yourself defend that line of reasoning. 
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Re: Nazism explained [Re: qman]
#25278877 - 06/19/18 01:49 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lol what?
Is this where you tell us that trans people are mentally ill?
Mod edit: Removed personal attack.
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qman
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Lol what?
Is this where you tell us that trans people are mentally ill?
At least youre an equal opportunity bigot.
I was just answering his question, I could give two shits what trans or gays do with their lives.
BTW, reported.
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Lol what?
Is this where you tell us that trans people are mentally ill?
At least youre an equal opportunity bigot.
Accepting reality makes you a bigot? People who make such claims make me wonder if their just liars. No one can claim that thinking men who think their girls are not mentally ill or off in some way. If you think its normal you're just being a liar and defending them for the sake of defending them, maybe you're a bigot for people who can see reality and admit things for what they are
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I like how all these self proclaimed nazi experts and antifa members cant give a number on how many nazis are in the states. Apparently nazis and fascists are Americas biggest threat, but you guys have absolutely no idea on how many there might be. Very telling
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Re: Nazism explained [Re: Tipote]
#25278947 - 06/19/18 02:30 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tipote said:
if you believe a thing but reject the label of people who believe that thing, does that mean you aren't that label?
Qman logic.
"Why are you all calling me a racist when I reject that label?"
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if you believe a thing but reject the label of people who believe that thing, does that mean you aren't that label?
Qman logic.
"Why are you all calling me a racist when I reject that label?"
You guys can call me whatever label you want, Enlil will decide if it's appropriate or not for this forum.
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#25278996 - 06/19/18 02:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just as long as you know how everyone here actually feels 
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I like how all these self proclaimed nazi experts and antifa members cant give a number on how many nazis are in the states. Apparently nazis and fascists are Americas biggest threat, but you guys have absolutely no idea on how many there might be. Very telling
I like how all these astrophysicists cant tell us how many planets there are.
But yeah, if none of the fascists cowered behind free speech or family values or fiscal conservatism or nationalism, we'd all know who they were and theyd reap the scorn of society.
Thats why they cower.
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Also, fascism is defined as a merger of corporate and state power. If youre denying that reality, and the consequences therein, then i dunno what to tell you.
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qman
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Just as long as you know how everyone here actually feels
You mean how you feel. Maybe I'll express how I feel someday, until then I'll play within the rules.
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Re: Nazism explained [Re: qman]
#25279038 - 06/19/18 03:18 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Racism becomes bad when white people have to undergo 'stop being so racist' classes at work to protect their employer from lawsuits.
Have you attended the mandatory 'stop abusing your female partner' and 'stop abusing young children' classes yet? As straight white males, shouldn't we both under go this training. What's the problem with it?
There is none. Except, like everything else wrong with our world, we shouldnt be relying on corporations to do it.
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#25279097 - 06/19/18 03:40 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just as long as you know how everyone here actually feels
You mean how you feel. Maybe I'll express how I feel someday, until then I'll play within the rules.
You express how you feel nearly every post.
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Re: Nazism explained [Re: Tipote]
#25279120 - 06/19/18 03:52 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol when was he banned? and for what - 5 minutes?
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why is there only "limited acceptance" in this forum for racism? Perhaps I am mistaken but it didn't used to be like this on this site.
Because this isn't a site for racist propaganda. The site has places where racism is fully accepted, but this forum is not one of them. Some racism has to be tolerated because, whether I like it or not, there are people who have deeply held racist beliefs which form the rationale for their politics and desired policies. If we banned all racism, how could they discuss their reasoning for supporting a particular policy?
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Is racism now just a political belief? Nazism involves a few different manifestations of racism, but they are all allowed.
Where do you draw the line then? Is pedophilia just a political belief too? Should we be allowed to advocate for it?
Racism isn't a political belief, but some political beliefs are founded upon racism. See answer to above.
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I feel like because racism is so normalised, and increasingly so, the boundaries are being shifted. What is the appropriate level of racism you are allowing here?
How would you like that expressed? a 1-10 scale? I'd say anything above a 3 is probably going to be deleted if I see it before it gets quoted a dozen times. Anything above an 8 will probably result in a ban unless it is something newsworthy that we're discussing (such as some Nazi speech, etc.)
The more accurate and useful answer is: I'm using my best judgment.
I hate racism in all forms, and I can link page after page of me calling out racism in multiple threads. My track record and views are very clear. This is not, however, my personal safe space. It is not my place to enforce an agenda here.
I know you don't like it. If it gets to be too much, I wish you the best of luck in whatever greener pastures you find. You will be missed. All I can do is my best to find a balance that falls somewhere between making this forum a sterile reflection of my beliefs and letting it turn into /pol/
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I like how all these astrophysicists cant tell us how many planets there are.
I was kicking around responses, but then I came upon this one. I don't think I could have done better.
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The Ecstatic
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Lol what?
Is this where you tell us that trans people are mentally ill?
At least youre an equal opportunity bigot.
Accepting reality makes you a bigot? People who make such claims make me wonder if their just liars. No one can claim that thinking men who think their girls are not mentally ill or off in some way. If you think its normal you're just being a liar and defending them for the sake of defending them, maybe you're a bigot for people who can see reality and admit things for what they are
Transphobia is a legitimate form of discrimination. I am not surprised this is news to some of you.
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