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Cultivating multiple mushroom species?
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I'm pretty knew to the growing world, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the process. I've been stuck with one strand though, golden teacher. Apparently, it's one of the easiest and fastest to grow.

I've heard though, that there are better more powerful species out there, but they grow slower and don't produce as many fruits. This is where my question comes into play. Would easier, faster growing, greater quantity producing mushrooms actually be more potent all together? Since I may be able to grow 4 golden teachers compared to 1 penis envy or  Panaeolus mushroom?

The second part is, is the trip that big of difference between different mushroom strains? I mean, I enjoy drinking a craft beer over a bud light... but they are both getting me the same kind of drunk. Now, if I would be getting a different type of experience I could definitely warrant trying to get another strain.

Any opinions or suggestions on mushrooms strains definitely worth my attention. I would like to stick to the same teks that grow golden teachers or not to extreme, oats, coco coir, brf cakes, room temperature growing environment, etc.

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Re: Cultivating multiple mushroom species? [Re: ElectricUniverse]
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Every person reacts differently to any drug so the effect of any sort of cubensis is determined by that, I personally have found little difference between B+, GT, or any cube (haven't tried PE or Pans). That said Ps. cyanescans are a night and day difference.

However you state that you don't want to change your growing parameters much so I don't know what to tell you on that, seems like you'd be limited by that more than anything. Specialized shrooms take specialized skills.


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Re: Cultivating multiple mushroom species? [Re: ElectricUniverse]
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PE is just as easy as GT to grow.

Just a little tip, i found that PE likes it a little warmer than usual. They will still be fine in cooler temps, though


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Cultivating multiple mushroom species? [Re: Zyiadem]
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Zyiadem I'm not against learning new growing techniques if there is that significant of a difference. Can you link me to any teks or give me some idea what changes it would take to grow something like you mentioned. I've heard that casing can change substantially. how about the substrates? Any pointers would be welcome.

Thanks for your tips on PE Bil, hopefully give those a shot later on.

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Re: Cultivating multiple mushroom species? [Re: ElectricUniverse]
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ElectricUniverse said:
I'm pretty knew to the growing world, and I'm thoroughly enjoying the process. I've been stuck with one strand though, golden teacher. Apparently, it's one of the easiest and fastest to grow.

I've heard though, that there are better more powerful species out there, but they grow slower and don't produce as many fruits. This is where my question comes into play. Would easier, faster growing, greater quantity producing mushrooms actually be more potent all together? Since I may be able to grow 4 golden teachers compared to 1 penis envy or  Panaeolus mushroom?

The second part is, is the trip that big of difference between different mushroom strains? I mean, I enjoy drinking a craft beer over a bud light... but they are both getting me the same kind of drunk. Now, if I would be getting a different type of experience I could definitely warrant trying to get another strain.

Any opinions or suggestions on mushrooms strains definitely worth my attention. I would like to stick to the same teks that grow golden teachers or not to extreme, oats, coco coir, brf cakes, room temperature growing environment, etc.


Species vs strains is a large difference, but focus on isolating good cultures of whatever cubes currently work for you instead of multi-spore and you'll find much of what you're looking for.  It's a necessary step to progress in growing.  Plenty of advice in the cult forum BTW...  :scaryshroom::thumbup:

In a word, though for cubes - PE (this is PEU, ok, that's three words):



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Re: Cultivating multiple mushroom species? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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Thanks for the advice about isolating good cultures. Now to clarify what that means... Does isolating cultures mean cloning fruit bodies onto agar that grow particularly large or look potent? I mean I had a couple in a batch that were dramatically larger and more potent than the rest that were in the box. It's good to know that there can be improvements made in growing by different techniques continuing the research.

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Re: Cultivating multiple mushroom species? [Re: ElectricUniverse]
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It means either cloning or isolating on agar.  I do the latter as clones never seem to take for me, so I work with cultures and just pick the regions that I like the best, rinse, repeat. 

If you pick the best to clone from MS you are likely to improve the results.  Any strain yields multiple variants when you inoculate from spores.


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Re: Cultivating multiple mushroom species? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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All the strains are going to be about the same potency if you grow from spores with the exception of Penis Envy and Albino Penis Envy.

PE can put out just as much weight as golden teachers and requires the same growing conditions, you'll just need to dial in your fruiting conditions a little better.

Ultimately the only way to get a high yielding high potency strain is to practice cloning and isolation and then eat the strains you've grown to test their potency.


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