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OfflineLittleHippy
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Mushrooms in the United Kindom
    #808261 - 08/10/02 06:03 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Hi, Im from the Uk and ive herd that in a couple of weeks all my friends are going to go shroom picking, the thing is, i cant find what type they are or any type which grows in the uk.

if anyone else is from the uk or knows which types are in season at the end of aug in the Uk, i would be most greatful


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: LittleHippy]
    #808275 - 08/10/02 06:18 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Ok the best know shrooms over here are liberty caps. Before picking you should do some reasearch as they are some species of mushroom that will kill if injested.
Even though these look nothing like libs its best to be sure.

To help you here is a few pics

www.erowid.org/plants

Pic link 2

no 3

You get the idea


Also I think they are out now. Not had time to go picking yet but will within a few days. Hope this helps
Hope this helps



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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: EvilGir]
    #808281 - 08/10/02 06:25 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Thanks, Where's the best places to find them, i live right next to farmers feilds and a huge wood, im just woundering if they might grow round me instread of trecking miles for them


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: LittleHippy]
    #808293 - 08/10/02 06:37 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I have found the best place is in fields where cows are grazing.
Just open fields with short grass. I usualy go to a local country park.
But the rangers are a pain the ass. Alway moning you cant pick them we will call the police. Even though i am on a public foot path. But remember watch the cows.
I was picking in this field one when some cows(not bulls) seemed like they where trying to attack me. Could of been protecting there young or shrooms.
Other than that just go looking in fields and if you see any type of shroom then the chances are that libs will be there. But remember be carefull mushroom poisioning is a slow painfull death and you wont know about it till its too late.


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: EvilGir]
    #809172 - 08/10/02 04:24 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

But remember be carefull mushroom poisioning is a slow painfull death and you wont know about it till its too late.




P Sem lookalikes are not poisonus are they? Do correct me if I'm wrong.


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: chrispc]
    #809812 - 08/10/02 09:48 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Yep. And you can find lookalikes that will kill you growing side by side with liberty caps.


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: Xlea321]
    #809952 - 08/10/02 11:33 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Alex123,

There are no poisonous liberty cap look-a-likes growing side by side with liberty caps. Where did you get that piece of misinformation.

mj


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: mjshroomer]
    #809974 - 08/10/02 11:55 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Psilocybin mushrooms of the world by the world authority Paul Stamets.

Where'd you get your misinformation from?


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: Xlea321]
    #810087 - 08/11/02 04:25 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

And you can find lookalikes that will kill you growing side by side with liberty caps.

Could you tell us what species they are then?

There are of course poisonous species that can grow in the same habitat as Psilocybe semilanceata, but near identical looking species? I don't think so.

I'm not saying It would be impossible to eat something poisonous if you weren't carefull, there was a case in Britain where someone confused Inocybe geophylla for Liberty caps. How they managed that I don't know.

If it were really true that there were deadly lookalikes for P.semilanceata then there would have been numerous reports in the media and in medical journals of people that had died from eating them.


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: Xlea321]
    #810089 - 08/11/02 04:31 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Psilocybin mushrooms of the world by the world authority Paul Stamets.

Where in the book does he say that? Page no.?


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: LittleHippy]
    #810090 - 08/11/02 04:35 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

In reply to:

Where's the best places to find them, i live right next to farmers feilds and a huge wood, im just woundering if they might grow round me instread of trecking miles for them




Take a look here


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #810141 - 08/11/02 06:24 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think he is refering about p32 of Psilocybin Mushrooms of the world.
But the pic shows p. pelliculosa sharing the same habitat with deadly Galerinas.
As to my post`s I did not say they are any deadly shrooms that look like libs.
I said they are deadly shroom out there and its best to do some research first to make sure you dont pick one of them. Even though they look nothing like libs. Just making sure noboady kills them selfs.




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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: Xlea321]
    #810204 - 08/11/02 07:30 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Paul is incorrect. He has not been out in the fields since the late 1970s, He spends the majority of time in his grow rooms at his farm in Shelton, Washington. There are no poisonous look-a-likes resembling liberty caps. There are poisonous macroscopic mushrooms which do resemble Psilocybe stuntzii and Psiulocybe cyanescens. These look-a-likes are deadly Galerina auntumnalis, Galerina venenata and Galerina marginata. They do not resemble liberty caps. And while Paul mentioned he beleived a Galerina resembled a liberty cap here are two photos of the three Galerina dealy species which do not resemble Psilocybe semilanceata (the liberty cap. But they do resemple Blue Ringers (P. stuntzii and P. fimetaria).

I also have an article from a British Doctor who wrote in a journal that liberty caps resemble Amanita muscaria, of which they do not.

Mj





1st image top: Galerina autumnalis
Bottom of top: Psilocybe cyanecens

2nd Image top:Galerina venenata
2nd image bottom: Psilocybe cyanescensi

Sometimes these above poisonous Galerina's will appear in grass on lawns.

and Below is the other deadly mushroom Conocybe filaris. This is a wood lover.



mj

See next reply for the third of the three deadly Galerina mushroom species. These four mushrooms shown above are the deadliest shrooms along with the three deadly Amanita species, which also look nothing like a liberty cap mushroom.

mj

Regarding P. pelliculosa, yes they do grow in Logging sides surrounded by deadly Galerina.s but do not resemble Galerina. And Paul and a few authors once wrrote that P. pelliculosa and P. semilanceata are indistinguisable and that is not true. They have simiallar characteristics but can be easily distiinguished macroscopically.

Also the top photograph of the Galerina and the P. cyanescens are fromthe same flower bed box photographed in the Freeway Park in Downtown Seattle in the late 1970s.

mj


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: mjshroomer]
    #810209 - 08/11/02 07:32 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Here is a pucture of Galerina marginata, the third dof the three deadly Galerina species.

Mjshroomer


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: mjshroomer]
    #810278 - 08/11/02 08:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

It's more the stuff on page 145. "Several distinct varieties of P semilanceata can be encountered. One looks dangerously close to a Galerina. Readers should note that woodland galerinas can coexist in the same habitat as grassland psilocybes"

With many mushroom pickers still in their teens I think it's best to err on the safe side and make them aware that not every mushroom in a clump will always be semilanceata.


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: mjshroomer]
    #810323 - 08/11/02 08:37 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Conocybe cyanopus?


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: mirrorsaw]
    #810392 - 08/11/02 09:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Conocybe cyanopus is a psilocybian mushroom found in the early spring along streams and riverbanks growin only from sphagum moss. IT takes approsimately 75 to 100 mushrooms or a THIRD OF A FRESH OUNCE TO GET HIGH. tHAT WOULD BE EQUAL TO TWENTY TO FORTY LIBERTY CAPS AND.

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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: mjshroomer]
    #810431 - 08/11/02 09:36 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

There are some mushrooms right outside of where I live that look just like the picture of Conocybe cyanopus you posted above. I'm going to get real high tonight!

Thanks mj


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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: mirrorsaw]
    #810503 - 08/11/02 10:23 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Mushrooms in the United Kindom [Re: DreaMaTrix]
    #810857 - 08/11/02 01:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Excuse me, I erred that is Conocybe filaris, not Conocybe cyanopus.

I corrected the abbove error so it now reads as it should.



I was in a hurry when I posted that and luckily Conocybe cyanopus does nnot appear until the spring months. The other dealy Conocybe filaris grows in woodchips int he fall. It, like P. cyanescens and P. stuntzii love alder chips and alder bark.

mj

HEre is a picture of Conocybe cyanopus.



The base of these stems are blue ont he slide but did not come that way when I put the slide in the scanner.

mj


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