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 TwIg
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 All known species and info - NEED HELP! 
#1282934 - 02/05/03 05:42 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm trying to piece together all the known species of hallucinogenic shrooms (containing psilocin and psilocybin, but also any other hallucinogenic chemicals), and information about the potency of each strain. What i mean by potency, is I need to know the amounts of each chemical of each strain so that i may categorize from most potent to least potent, by each chemical.
Yes, i realize what a task this is. But half the task is finding the information needed, so please help if you can. Direct links to information, or names of books would be great.
For the record, this is for a book... it's a long story 
~TwIg~
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 CuriousByN8ure
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1283013 - 02/05/03 06:16 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm personally amazed by the continuance of posts which seem to imply, "Hey do work for Me!" when all the information is completely available online. Not to be a dick, but my time is valuable, and so is the time of those who post after me.
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TwIg
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: CuriousByN8ure]
#1283085 - 02/05/03 07:11 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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To which I reply, NO SHIT?
If my time wasn't valuable , why would I be asking for help to get something done more quickly? I'm not asking for anyone to do my work for me, I'm simply asking if anyone knows where i might find helpful research in the hopes that someone knows something I don't.
I have a plethora of information already thanks to places like The Shroomery, Erowid, Lycaeum, Mushroom John, NFSG, and several documents and books by researchers, etc.
But it doesn't hurt to ask these kind of questions when there are dozens of people on this site alone that might have something that I don't.
For the record, I'm not bitchin you out. I'm just a lil defensive and strung out cause of the sheer frustration that this part of the chapter has givin me. Trying to identify over 180 psychoactive mushrooms and categorize them by potency (by each chemical), Genus and species, location, poisonous/non-poisonous, plus all look-alikes would get to anyone, agreed?
That's aside from the fact that I haven't started on the chapter about Marijuana (avoiding it for now, that's going to be as long as this chapter is) and I've only finshed 3 chapters out of the 7 I have lined up.
If anything, Thanks for giving me a reason to vent.
~TwIg~
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TwIg
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1283090 - 02/05/03 07:15 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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After re-reading my original post, it does look like I worded that a lil wrong. I'm not looking for you to post all the information you can find me - I'm wanting you to point me in the right direction... an URL, a book title... i can handle it from there.
So, curious, I see why you would think I was looking for complete handouts by the way i worded that.
~TwIg~
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 Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1285528 - 02/06/03 01:22 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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wtf is it doing in the ethno garden???
any mod???
Edited by felixhigh (02/06/03 01:24 PM)
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A0999
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 Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1285782 - 02/06/03 02:34 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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cool are you writing a book about all kinds of drugs? you can send me test copy and i will test it out for ya(couldnt think of the right words to say) 
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: A0999]
#1286110 - 02/06/03 04:03 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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>>? you can send me test copy and i will test it out for ya(couldnt think of the right words to say)
did you mean Manuscript?
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A0999
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: neuro]
#1286129 - 02/06/03 04:08 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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i suppose.
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Edited by anarchist0999 (02/06/03 04:08 PM)
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1286167 - 02/06/03 04:21 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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TwIg
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: A0999]
#1286234 - 02/06/03 04:35 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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For the record, I had no idea really where to post this thread... i simply figured that anyone that had this kind of information in their head might be skimming around this forum.
And yeah, 7 chapters are specifically about drugs - Marijuana, Hallucinogenic Mushrooms, LSD, Crack cocaine/Cocaine, Meth, MDMA, and (LSA/Peyote/Mescaline - unsure whether to sum up all three in one chapter, or create seperate chapters). These chapters focus mainly on the history, chemistry/biology, and US Law. I'm still debating how to introduce growing guides/manufacturing of/synthesization of these drugs into each chapter - I don't know if I'm going to include my original guides, request use of someone else's more prominant guides (ex. The MMGG), or simply request use of ALL known guides, but that would be one hell of a long book if i did that (but thorough, huh?)
Right now I'm focusing on getting these mushroom species sorted out. Sorry about snapping, curious, really I was just exhausted last night. 
As of now I'm not planning on getting this thing published as I don't want to deal with the hassle, but I have sorted out most of the sources pages and copyrights just in case. Either way you know me, I'll end up posting most of the important information I collect on a webpage somewhere... 
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TwIg
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: ]
#1286301 - 02/06/03 04:53 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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My bad, i meant species.... like i said, i've been working to compile info on all kinds of drugs, so my mind is always elsewhere when it shouldn't be.
And yah, I'm starting to realize that most of the work i truly need probably hasn't been done. However, I'll do my best with what has been done, with all variables included, and to the hilt - trust me.
And Guzman does not ring a bell. I might have already looked over some of his work, and maybe not - either way, it'd be greatly appreciated if you find that link!
Thanks either way,
~TwIg~
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A0999
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1286339 - 02/06/03 05:07 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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i just wanna ask , how come you choose these particular drugsover others?
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1286356 - 02/06/03 05:12 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't be supprised if the Shroomery had one of the largest collections of images of different species of psychedelic mushrooms.
Some folks over in the pictures, and hunting forums could probably hook you up with all kinds of images that they own the rights to.
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A0999
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1286388 - 02/06/03 05:21 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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hell i could mail you picturesof drugs if you want. not digital images though, developed photos and such , tell me what you want.
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TwIg
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: A0999]
#1286517 - 02/06/03 05:51 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, if you want to submit photos I'd like that. But they can't be someone elses - if they are yours, that's cool, but i just need to give you credit for them (a name under the photo, and in the sources page). Any photo of drugs or paraphenelia is cool. Email them to jjmc_81@yahoo.com
Why did I choose these drugs? 1) they are the ones that I know the most about 2) they are the most popular in society today 3) they are the ones that have the most history (and by history, i mean WAAAAY back, as well as in today's times).
MDMA and LSD don't have much history except in the last century, but in that short time they have produced quite a bit of controversy which gives me something to write about.
And when i said i had completed 3 of those chapters, i should have worded that differently. They are done FOR NOW, but i'm always finding new facts and information that can be incorporated later. And as for pics, well, I haven't even really started on that yet...
~TwIg~
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TwIg
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1286528 - 02/06/03 05:53 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah hell, I forgot to mention Opium/Heroin way up there... that's my 7th chapter. Like i said, I haven't decided what to do with LAA, peyote, and mescaline.
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A0999
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1286584 - 02/06/03 06:09 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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sounds mighty fine indeed. yeah all the pictures will be my own.
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1286955 - 02/06/03 08:48 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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A0999
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: ]
#1287959 - 02/07/03 06:52 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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AHHHH!! why did that site bring up my acrobat reader??
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: A0999]
#1288170 - 02/07/03 08:31 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: TwIg]
#1290383 - 02/08/03 05:57 AM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Unless you've got a gas chromatograph, I doubt you're going to find the concentrations of psilocybin in every known psilocybian species.
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TwIg
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 Re: All known species and info - NEED HELP! [Re: ]
#1294394 - 02/09/03 05:40 PM (21 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mushrooms, I PMed you back. Yah, thanks for the link. I think I actually opened that file once, but since it didn't load right away I skipped over it. I actually let it load up this time, and it turns out it has a lot of informatioin I was missing.
Thanks a lot!
~TwIg~
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