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OfflineDannyBoy
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The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD???
    #2373195 - 02/23/04 08:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have a quick question...

What are the effects of Psilocybin and LSD on the heart, lungs, CNS....I guess my questions are:

1. Are they vasoconstrictors or vasodialators?
2. Do they depress breathing?
3. Do they depress the CNS?

Thanx in advance.


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2373389 - 02/23/04 09:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Man I wish I had buds to pick like those.

I'd dry them. I'd bust them up. I'd pack them into my bowl.

I would appreciate the gift I would be given.

I want to learn more about growing weed. Mushrooms were so easy to grow, I feel like a pro now. I don't know anything about growing plants. I wish I had a weed growing mentor, like Ricky or someone. Then I could grow really good weed the first time.


I was watching this movie yesterday and someone said "figure out what you want in your life (or out of life, something like that) and spend the next twenty five years getting it. bit by bit."

I don't know what all I want for my self, but I am sure I was mushrooms and marijuana in my life for as long as I can foresee.


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2373411 - 02/23/04 09:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

LSD and mushrooms definatly speed up my heart rate. Id guess my breathing as well.

Relicant, what are you talking about. Thats somthing you should pm him. Dont jack this thread.


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: baraka]
    #2373460 - 02/23/04 10:05 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

baraka: I didn't know either what he was talking about 'til I looked at DannyBoy's avatar.


Edited by HidingInPlainSight (02/23/04 10:06 PM)


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2373567 - 02/23/04 10:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

ive been reading on how to grow good old MJ for the last 5 years at least. of course i dont do it...that would be illegal :smile:
if you have any ?'s PM. 
also the original ?....i have asthma and i find i can breath better on both.  dont ask me why.  weed baked into cookies i still have a sorta hard time...a bit weezy. smoking it hell ya.  i cant


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: Bob_J]
    #2373820 - 02/23/04 11:55 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hmmm... he asked about the physiological effects of LSD and shrooms, and here we are talking about how to grow some dank ass buds? Let's get back to his question...

1. They are vasocontrictors (Especially LSA + LSD)
2. They don't depress breathing
3. Not sure about this one


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2375182 - 02/24/04 10:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: Anno]
    #2375493 - 02/25/04 06:44 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

how recent is this study? i can't see any dates.


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: comario2]
    #2375502 - 02/25/04 07:37 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The Hasler paper is 2003. I found the PDF file on it at erowid.com

Rather confusing since they also left off the page numbering. It says Neuropharmacolgy but then it says published ont he internet.

I just added it to my bibliography. I also have to go back to the article at erowid and write in some of the references on that.IT is a shame I cannot copy a line when in PDF format.

I will say as a hole, that paper and the research made no sense to me. I could have found a lot better reasons for other studies than that.

When I look over some of the pharmacological papers and the clinical research done on animals and on humans, s0ome are intereting and understandable and other research projects were completely useless.

The first research on psilocybian shrooms was conducted by Michael Levine in 1917.

Levine, Michael. 1917. The psychological properties of two species of poisonous fungi. Mem Torrey Botanical Club vol. 17:176-201. October.
Describes several chemical induced techniques used on animals in mans first attempt to investigate the unusual effects attributed to the consumption of fungi causing a cerebral mycetismus in humans (Panaeolus venonosus (syn.=Panaeolus subbalteatus). These laboratory tests came about after the author had read of several intoxications caused by the accidental ingestion of certain species of Panaeolus mushrooms. Animals in this study included: Rabbits, Ducks, Frogs, Dogs, Turtles, cats, n mice and/or rats.

Unfortunately Dr. Levine did not choose to test the mushrooms on himself and so failed in determining what caused the intoxicated reported effects of this species. Thus it lay hidden in antiquity until the early and late 1950s.

mj

from Teonan?catl: A Bibliography of Entheogenic Fungi by John W. Allen and Jochen Gartz, Ph.D. 2003.


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2377779 - 02/26/04 02:26 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Lsd is a vasodialator, I don't know about shrooms. Both are stimulents and increase heart rate and breathing. They are also CNS stimulants.


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2378069 - 02/26/04 05:03 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

thank you, mj.


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: DannyBoy]
    #2378125 - 02/26/04 05:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

According to a new study just released, taking a combination of LSD + Mushrooms can cause you to kill cats and have sex with their corpses in allies...


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Re: The Physiologic Effects Psilocybin & LSD??? [Re: ]
    #2380536 - 02/26/04 07:15 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

SoftRat said:
Lsd is a vasodialator




It's a vasoconstrictor


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