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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
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The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
That means, unless you signed up when you were underage, you 3 are approaching 30 and spend your time arguing about words you cant even define.



Maybe the members of Antifa will help us "define" words. :cookiemonster:



Maybe you can tap s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-m into your browser and hit enter.

See what happens.



It froze up my computer. :crankey:

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
SirTripAlot said:
Didn't you know about the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea?:shrug::shocked:



Yes, thank you for pointing out that just because a political party calls themselves democratic republic, does not make them a democratic republic. Just like nazis calling themselves the National Socialist German Worker's Party doesnt make them socialist.


Do I need to point out that buffalo wings dont come from buffalos? That the NY Jets are a football team and not a commercial airline company? Christ.



And they play in New Jersey :lol:


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
That means, unless you signed up when you were underage, you 3 are approaching 30 and spend your time arguing about words you cant even define.



Maybe the members of Antifa will help us "define" words. :cookiemonster:



Maybe you can tap s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-m into your browser and hit enter.

See what happens.



It froze up my computer. :crankey:



All it did was give me the definition of communism :lol:

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
That means, unless you signed up when you were underage, you 3 are approaching 30 and spend your time arguing about words you cant even define.



Maybe the members of Antifa will help us "define" words. :cookiemonster:



Maybe you can tap s-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-m into your browser and hit enter.

See what happens.



It froze up my computer. :crankey:



cointelpro smh


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: koods]
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koods said:
The Ecstatic said:
SirTripAlot said:
Didn't you know about the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea?:shrug::shocked:



Yes, thank you for pointing out that just because a political party calls themselves democratic republic, does not make them a democratic republic. Just like nazis calling themselves the National Socialist German Worker's Party doesnt make them socialist.


Do I need to point out that buffalo wings dont come from buffalos? That the NY Jets are a football team and not a commercial airline company? Christ.



And they play in New Jersey :lol:



:lol: good point


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
what do you mean "the banks didn't have to do anything with the money"?  Do you mean we would have been better off giving the money to teachers and others who deal with immigrants?

yes the banks DID have to do something with the money - they had to loan it out so the money reentered the economy.



Yes, and where did the credit creation go?  The financial markets or main street?  There's a reason why the velocity of money has dropped dramatically since the 2008 crisis and is at a 60 year low.



Ah, so you agree the money would have been better spent on teachers and others who deal with immigrants.

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Tell us what happens if interest rates were to just normalize in the EU and if the ECB didn't buy government debt with money that doesn't exist?



Nothing happens because the majority of EU government aren't insolvent.  Greece might be, but that's about it.



Then you're ignorant on the subject matter. :shrug:



Nuh uh, you're ignorant.  Neener neener.  Is that how we make arguments now?

You're the one who made the claim "the vast majority of EU governments are insolvent".  Burden of proof is on YOU. 

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Let's see if it's too much to ask.  How about some ballpark figures on how many people can live a middle class life and tell us how you know this.



The people that are currently living a middle class life is the best indicator we have today.



Why, did we run out of recourses?



"so you agree the money would have been better spent on teachers and others who deal with immigrants"

No, it would have been potentially inflationary since the money goes directly into main street and it's a mis-allocation of resources to piss away money on people that shouldn't be there in the first place.

"Is that how we make arguments now?"

I should ask the same when you reply with "nothing happens".  I asked a simple question and you refused to answer it.

"Why, did we run out of resources?"

So if there's unused resources available, that means the system is depriving others from living a middle class lifestyle?  I don't think so.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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Immigrants, Immigrants, Immigrants. Why do they deserve to come here in the first place?

Edited by Bodhi of Ankou (01/11/18 03:59 PM)

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Collective white guilt, and shit :cookiemonster:

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Immigrants, Immigrants, Immigrants. Why do they deserve to come here in the first place?



To lower wages and drain social services programs from the native populations, yet liberals and the elite are in total agreement on this policy. :rofl2:

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Immigrants, Immigrants, Immigrants. Why do they deserve to come here in the first place?



To lower wages and drain social services programs from the native populations, yet liberals and the elite are in total agreement on this policy. :rofl2:



Yay more disingenuous strawmen :cookiemonster:


Even if you wanna make the argument that immigrants are doing those things, thats not WHY they're here.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Wanna answer the question as to why we have to let them in at all?

Ill wait.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Immigrants, Immigrants, Immigrants. Why do they deserve to come here in the first place?



To lower wages and drain social services programs from the native populations, yet liberals and the elite are in total agreement on this policy. :rofl2:



Yay more disingenuous strawmen :cookiemonster:


Even if you wanna make the argument that immigrants are doing those things, thats not WHY they're here.



That is why they're here though. To destroy the solidarity of the working and middle classes, making them easier to conquer by the ruling class.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
so you agree the money would have been better spent on teachers and others who deal with immigrants.



No, it would have been potentially inflationary since the money goes directly into main street and it's a mis-allocation of resources to piss away money on people that shouldn't be there in the first place.



Teachers and doctors and other professions that deal with immigrants (Main St) shouldn't have gotten the money because it might be inflationary???

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
You're the one who made the claim "the vast majority of EU governments are insolvent".  Burden of proof is on YOU.



I should ask the same when you reply with "nothing happens".  I asked a simple question and you refused to answer it.



You made a claim that you couldn't back up, and now you want ME to prove your claim right or wrong?  :flowstone:

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Let's see if it's too much to ask.  How about some ballpark figures on how many people can live a middle class life and tell us how you know this.



The people that are currently living a middle class life is the best indicator we have today.



Why, did we run out of recourses?



So if there's unused resources available, that means the system is depriving others from living a middle class lifestyle?  I don't think so.



It means we're not out of resources, which means you were wrong about your claim that the current number of people is all that can live a middle class lifestyle due to limited resources.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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How many immigrants do you have living with you Fal. Do you practice what you preach, or does it only matter when you're talking about everyone elses jobs and resources.

:smug:

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Wanna answer the question as to why we have to let them in at all?

Ill wait.



Immigrants in general or refugees?

At the base i'd say a general sense of moral obligation and compassion, at best international law.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Pfft international law, this is Earth, not the fucking UN. And your morality is trite and trivial because you can never make a dent in the number of peopple living in poverty. You can adopt 1 billion migrant pets, and fly them all over, trippling the united states population overnight, and there would still be 2 billion more, waiting to get in.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
How many immigrants do you have living with you Fal. Do you practice what you preach, or does it only matter when you're talking about everyone elses jobs and resources.

:smug:



He lives in one of the wealthiest areas of the world. The chances of him living within five miles of any refugee is almost zero.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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We should just build a giant refugee camp at Bexhill-on-Sea.  It worked in Children of Men.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: chibiabos]
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How about you stop trying to adopt pets from all 4 corners of the world, that would solve all of our problems overnight. Its not like you intend on putting any money up for their well being, instead you go about attempting to hold all of us at gunpoint to support your idiotic, retarded fucking ideas about "equality". Which is the stupid fucking idea that these peoples societies are not a product of their action but rather some invisible oppression that nobody can ever point out, and we're all somehow responsible for that oppression. Please, just keep your fucking beak out politics.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
How about you stop trying to adopt pets from all 4 corners of the world



But what about my polyethnic fuck-dungeon?  Do you expect me to just fuck white people who are bad at math?

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