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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Bailing out financial institutions have different economic implications than supporting economic migrants.


Ah, you finally agree it prevents Great Depressions?  :thumbup:  Or what do you mean?

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I don't think you know what insolvent means


I know exactly what it means.


Then you're wrong that "the vast majority of EU governments are insolvent".


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
LARPing communists, fighting a wholly imaginary enemy I might add.


Definitely agree with that. However, the more the Authoritarian Left pushes those who identify as Patriots and Nationalists the more authoritarian and organized those Patriots and Nationalists will ultimately become.
In a way the Authoritarian Left at the moment are their own worst enemy. Not only do they come across as hypocrites, it's obvious that the only people they are intent on attacking are those with white skin. Fascism does not really have a foot hold, yet. But the longer they keep pushing this narrative and the stronger Nationalism rises because of it, the more those who oppose their views will start to turn to it.


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Adolf Hitler - The Greatest Story NEVER Told - Official Trailer

The National Socialist Revolution - THINK DIFFERENT

EUROPA – The Last Battle - The Truth Fears No Investigation

Edited by Bubbles85 (01/09/18 10:38 AM)

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bubbles85] * 2
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^ what?

Your argument is basically "these commies are fighting an enemy that doesnt exist, and also theyre emboldening and expanding that nonexistent enemy by opposing them."


Next level brilliance from the same folks who brought you: "im not really a racist but the fact that youre calling me a racist is making me more racist."


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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It's not my fault you can't comprehend what I'm saying. Yes, Fascism in the generic sense, does not exist. Yet. Nationalism is not Fascism. Nationalism becomes Fascism when Nationalists take on an Authoritarian stance. Keep pushing your Authoritarian Far-Left agenda and watch that happen.


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The National Socialist Revolution - THINK DIFFERENT

EUROPA – The Last Battle - The Truth Fears No Investigation

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Not anything they desire.



How much and for how many?  :popcorn:  How do you quantify the limits of the resources and the amount of people that should receive them?

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Bailing out financial institutions have different economic implications than supporting economic migrants.


Ah, you finally agree it prevents Great Depressions?  :thumbup:  Or what do you mean?

qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I don't think you know what insolvent means


I know exactly what it means.


Then you're wrong that "the vast majority of EU governments are insolvent".


"what do you mean"

Fixing the balance sheets of financial institutions with digital money and directly supporting economic migrants are completely different. The banks didn't have to do anything with the money, that's not the case with supporting migrants for free.

"Then you're wrong"

Tell us what happens if interest rates were to just normalize in the EU and if the ECB didn't buy government debt with money that doesn't exist?

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Not anything they desire.



How much and for how many?  :popcorn:  How do you quantify the limits of the resources and the amount of people that should receive them?


Nah im not playing your stupid game.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Not anything they desire.



How much and for how many?  :popcorn:  How do you quantify the limits of the resources and the amount of people that should receive them?


Nah im not playing your stupid game.


It's not a "stupid game, it's a fair question. :shrug: 

I'm not asking for specifics, but just some ballpark figures, is that too much to ask?

Maybe the issue lies with the fact that you're starting to realize there's limits here on how many can have their hands on the resource pie.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman] * 1
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Food, water, shelter, healthcare.

There are more than enough resources in the world to provide that to every man, woman, and child.

But I'm not gonna sit here and labor over rhe minutia of socialism to someone who can't be bothered to retain the simplest of concepts in relation to it.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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Your worldview depends on your outright refusal of the premise that we CAN provide the necessities for everyone. Its no surprise that you cling to that refusal time and time again.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Food, water, shelter, healthcare.

There are more than enough resources in the world to provide that to every man, woman, and child.

But I'm not gonna sit here and labor over rhe minutia of socialism to someone who can't be bothered to retain the simplest of concepts in relation to it.


"to retain the simplest of concepts in relation to it"

Which are?

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Your worldview depends on your outright refusal of the premise that we CAN provide the necessities for everyone. Its no surprise that you cling to that refusal time and time again.


"we CAN provide the necessities for everyone"

Can we provide everyone with a first world standard of living?  No we can't.

So let my guess, you want to take away resources from me to meet your unrealistic goals of providing for everyone else, why should I sign up for that plan?

Look what happened to Africa when they increased their food production, their population exploded and now they're back into a big mess with many of them running into other parts of the world to survive.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Food, water, shelter, healthcare.

There are more than enough resources in the world to provide that to every man, woman, and child.

But I'm not gonna sit here and labor over rhe minutia of socialism to someone who can't be bothered to retain the simplest of concepts in relation to it.


"to retain the simplest of concepts in relation to it"

Which are?


Did you miss the one where I said I wasnt playing your game?

qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Your worldview depends on your outright refusal of the premise that we CAN provide the necessities for everyone. Its no surprise that you cling to that refusal time and time again.


"we CAN provide the necessities for everyone"

Can we provide everyone with a first world standard of living?  No we can't.

So let my guess, you want to take away resources from me to meet your unrealistic goals of providing for everyone else, why should I sign up for that plan?

Look what happened to Africa when they increased their food production, their population exploded and now they're back into a big mess with many of them running into other parts of the world to survive.


Where did I say first world standard of living?

Disingenuous strawman arguments is literally your ethos. Pathetic.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Food, water, shelter, healthcare.

There are more than enough resources in the world to provide that to every man, woman, and child.

But I'm not gonna sit here and labor over rhe minutia of socialism to someone who can't be bothered to retain the simplest of concepts in relation to it.


"to retain the simplest of concepts in relation to it"

Which are?


Did you miss the one where I said I wasnt playing your game?

qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Your worldview depends on your outright refusal of the premise that we CAN provide the necessities for everyone. Its no surprise that you cling to that refusal time and time again.


"we CAN provide the necessities for everyone"

Can we provide everyone with a first world standard of living?  No we can't.

So let my guess, you want to take away resources from me to meet your unrealistic goals of providing for everyone else, why should I sign up for that plan?

Look what happened to Africa when they increased their food production, their population exploded and now they're back into a big mess with many of them running into other parts of the world to survive.


Where did I say first world standard of living?


Come on, why do you have such low standards? 

Where's this mass group of humans that don't have water, food and shelter?

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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"If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the form of liberalism."

-Ronald Reagan

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman]
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Low standards? Coming from the guy who wants to wall off a majority of the world's population.

Where are they? Everywhere. In every city. On every continent. We're the richest nation in history and yet a fifth of our children are starving.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Low standards? Coming from the guy who wants to wall off a majority of the world's population.

Where are they? Everywhere. In every city. On every continent. We're the richest nation in history and yet a fifth of our children are starving.


"wall off a majority of the world's population"

Just stop please, it's called having borders.

Really, 20% of US children "are starving"?

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: qman] * 1
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They rely on programs to survive that your ilk are quickly eradicating, like CHIP.

But by all means, lets give the capitalists even more power. You know what we should do? Get rid of child labor laws. If a kid wants to eat and not die and their parents cant afford food then they can get a job like the rest of us.


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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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All this capitalist, socialist, communist shit is identity politics LARPing, and its tired and worn out as fuck.

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Re: 2017 in the Bay and Beyond: A Play-by-Play Analysis of Antifascist Action in the USA [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 2
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Wow youre so smart and knowledgeable how you use 'LARPing' in every single post, and complain about identity politics despite being a literal nazi.

What a stupid fuck you are.


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