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US shoots down Syrian SU-22
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Like the wording from the Pentagon. Syrian Democratic Forces...is that what they are called...or just here in the US? Anyway...its an escalation.



http://hosted2.ap.org/APDefault/*/Article_2017-06-18-US-United-States-Syria/id-e90d0b419eaf4d5a8b919f43711b980d

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military on Sunday shot down a Syrian Air Force fighter jet that bombed local forces aligned with the Americans in the fight against Islamic State militants, an action that appeared to mark a new escalation of the conflict.
The U.S. had not shot down a Syrian regime aircraft before Sunday's confrontation, said Navy Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman. While the U.S. has said since it began recruiting, training and advising what it calls moderate Syrian opposition forces to fight IS that it would protect them from potential Syrian government retribution, this was the first time it resorted to engaging in air-to-air combat to make good on that promise.
The U.S.-led coalition headquarters in Iraq said in a written statement that a U.S. F-18 Super Hornet shot down a Syrian government SU-22 after it dropped bombs near the U.S. partner forces, known as the Syrian Democratic Forces.
The shootdown was near Tabqa, a Syrian town in an area that has been a weekslong focus of fighting against IS militants by the SDF as they surround the city of Raqqa and attempt to retake it from IS.
The U.S. military statement said it acted in "collective self defense" of its partner forces and that the U.S. did not seek a fight with the Syrian government or its Russian supporters.
According to a statement from the Pentagon, pro-Syrian regime forces attacked the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces-held town of Ja'Din, south of Tabqah in northern Syria, wounding a number of SDF fighters and driving the SDF from the town.
Coalition aircraft conducted a show of force and stopped the initial pro-regime advance toward the town, the Pentagon said. Following the pro-Syrian forces attack, the coalition called its Russian counterparts "to de-escalate the situation and stop the firing," according to the statement.
A few hours later, the Syrian SU-22 dropped bombs near SDF fighters and, "in collective self-defense of coalition-partnered forces," was immediately shot down by a U.S. F/A-18E Super Hornet, the Pentagon said.
"The coalition's mission is to defeat ISIS in Iraq and Syria," the Pentagon said, using an abbreviation for the Islamic State group. "The coalition does not seek to fight Syrian regime, Russian or pro-regime forces partnered with them, but will not hesitate to defend coalition or partner forces from any threat. "
U.S. forces tangled earlier this month with Syria-allied aircraft in the region. On June 8, U.S. officials reported that a drone likely connected to Iranian-supported Hezbollah forces fired on U.S.-backed troops and was shot down by an American fighter jet. The incident took place in southern Syria near a base where the U.S.-led coalition was training Syrian rebels fighting the Islamic State group.
An Army spokesman at the Pentagon said at the time that the drone carried more weapons and was considered a direct threat, prompting the shootdown.
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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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That'll teach Assad to go after the religious extremists.

But wait, isn't that who we're fighting against?

I guess not when they're fighting a Government who's a little too friendly with Russia for our liking.


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Russia is a far bigger threat than religious extremists.


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Enlil]
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A threat to big oil?  Or...?


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Threat to U.S. national security. Russia could wipe off all human life on this planet.  Religious extremists can't even kill enough to keep up with population growth.


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Enlil]
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And by supporting religious extremists in Syria in their fight against the Syrian Government and Russia, we reduce that chance?


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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That I wouldn't know.


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Russia vows to shoot down all 'flying objects' in Syria after US guns down first regime warplane

Communication channel between Washington and Moscow to be suspended immediately



The country's defence ministry said it would also suspend a hotline between Russia and the US set up to prevent mid-air collisions.

The statement followed after a US F-18 Super Hornet shot down a Syrian army SU-22 jet on Sunday in the countryside southwest of Raqqa
Washington said the jet had dropped bombs near US-backed forces but Damascus said the plane was downed while flying a mission against Isis militants.

Russia's Defence Ministry said the suspension of its communication channel with the Americans would begin immediately.

The US did not use its communication channel with Russia ahead of the downing of the Syrian government warplane, the ministry was quoted as saying, accusing the US of a "deliberate failure to make good on its commitments" under the de-confliction deal.

"The shooting down of a Syrian Air Force jet in Syria’s airspace is a cynical violation of Syria’s sovereignty," the ministry said.

"The US’ repeated combat operations under the guise of ‘combating terrorism’ against the legitimate armed forces of a UN member-country are a flagrant violation of international law and an actual military aggression against the Syrian Arab Republic."


Russia, which has been providing air cover for Syria's President, Bashar al-Assad, since 2015, has an agreement with the US aimed at preventing incidents involving either country's warplanes engaged in operations in Syria.

Downing the jet was akin to "helping the terrorists that the US is fighting against”, Sergei Ryabkov, Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister, said.


Russia says it may have killed Isis leader in Raqqa air strike
“In accordance with rules of engagement and in collective self-defence of Coalition partnered forces, it was immediately shot down by a US F/A-18E Super Hornet,” a statement released by US Central Command on Sunday said.

“The Coalition's mission is to defeat Isis in Iraq and Syria. The Coalition does not seek to fight Syrian regime, Russian, or pro-regime forces partnered with them, but will not hesitate to defend Coalition or partner forces from any threat.

“The Coalition presence in Syria addresses the imminent threat Isis in Syria poses globally. The demonstrated hostile intent and actions of pro-regime forces toward Coalition and partner forces in Syria conducting legitimate counter-ISIS operations will not be tolerated.”


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Syrian Democratic Forces lol. I guess Free Syrian Army wasnt freedomy enough.

I just hope the US starts funding the Free Syrians for a Democratic Free Democracy of Freedom Army soon because theyre our only hope against the bloodthirsty psychopath Assad.


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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I wonder is it something to impeach Trump?  :crazybeard:


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russia-threatens-to-treat-us-coalition-aircraft-as-targets-over-syria/2017/06/19/95e87428-54ca-11e7-9e18-968f6ad1e1d3_story.html?utm_term=.96aba7d4b8f2
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MOSCOW — Russia on Monday angrily condemned the downing of a Syrian aircraft by a U.S. fighter as a “flagrant violation of international law,” and said its forces will treat U.S.-led coalition aircraft and drones as targets if they are operating in Syrian airspace west of the Euphrates while Russian aviation is on combat missions.



these assholes are playing chicken, and they might end up getting a lot of people killed.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
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Remember when Hillary was going to start ww3 during the campaign ? Must of heard it about a thousand times .


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Syrian Democratic Forces lol. I guess Free Syrian Army wasnt freedomy enough.

I just hope the US starts funding the Free Syrians for a Democratic Free Democracy of Freedom Army soon because theyre our only hope against the bloodthirsty psychopath Assad.



When you call Assad "a bloodthirsty psychopath" for defending his country from Muslim extremism, while the US provides support for them, are you being sarcastic?

The US constantly interferes whenever Assad has the Muslim extremists in retreat.  It appears Russia has finally had enough US lip service of how we want to help fight Islamic extremism.  It's obviously not true, we're simply interested in removing Assad so we can take control of Syria.


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russia-threatens-to-treat-us-coalition-aircraft-as-targets-over-syria/2017/06/19/95e87428-54ca-11e7-9e18-968f6ad1e1d3_story.html?utm_term=.96aba7d4b8f2
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MOSCOW — Russia on Monday angrily condemned the downing of a Syrian aircraft by a U.S. fighter as a “flagrant violation of international law,” and said its forces will treat U.S.-led coalition aircraft and drones as targets if they are operating in Syrian airspace west of the Euphrates while Russian aviation is on combat missions.



these assholes are playing chicken, and they might end up getting a lot of people killed.



Obviously you're talking about the US, right?


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Nice to see U.S equipment still choochin and working well.

Send more F-22s and ignore the Russian airspace warning, all will be fine.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Cinnamon]
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Who cares about a war with Russia, right?


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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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ahh I was just bullshitting.

But Russia is insane to think the U.S will listen to their warnings, which again will make Russia look like an aggressor for declaring such a thing and then threatening to down U.S aircraft.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: Cinnamon]
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Do you mean Russia is insane to think the US will follow the terms of our Memorandum on the Prevention of Incidents and Ensuring Air Safety in Syria?

You would be right, and if we don't honor our agreements, why should they?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Wars and rumors of wars....anyway unlike "taking out an airfield"....engagement via flight can open Pandoras Box. Shutting down com lines to avoid midair accidents seems to only make things worse

How about "Operation Syrian Freedom via ISIS Containment Sometimes"


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: US shoots down Syrian SU-22 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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