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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: Diploid]
    #5312193 - 02/17/06 10:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Right, Medellin, a CIVILIAN who WORKS FOR the Armstrong ranch TOLD the local police that no further investigation was required that night even as the Secret Service barred the police from entering.

And CBS reports: "CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer reports Texas authorities are complaining that the Secret Service barred them from speaking to Cheney after the incident."

Source: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/13/sheriff-barred-from-interviewing/




Constable Medellin  :rolleyes:

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Texas constables are elected officials, similar to a sheriff, who are responsible for providing services for their precinct justice of the peace, but also for his county, and the state district courts. They have full law enforcement authority throughout their respective counties and the state. Most constable offices have only one or two persons, but in the major metropolitan counties with four or more precincts, they may have over a hundred persons. Texas contains over 1,300 constable offices employing over 3,500 persons. The Texas constable is also listed as a unique independent local police agency on the United States Department of Justice's Uniform Crime Reports.



and who the fuck cares what White House correspondent Peter Maer says or dreams up.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5312216 - 02/17/06 10:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Constable Medellin

Nope.

Salinas then contacted Ramiro Medellin, a former Kenedy County sheriff who works at the 50,000-acre ranch.

A CIVILIAN who works for the people hosting the hunt and someone who would likely spin things in a favorable light for his employer.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5312230 - 02/17/06 10:23 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The police did interview him right away

From the Kenedy County Sheriff's Report you posted:

On Sunday, February 12, 2006, at approximately 0805 hrs. I Chief Deputy Gilberto San Miguel Jr., arrived at the bump gate to the Armstrong Ranch.

The Cheney police interview BEGAN on Sunday morning; the day after the accident.

and who the fuck cares what White House correspondent Peter Maer says or dreams up.

Let's see how this works. You guys accuse me of making things up and demand sources. When I provide them, you dismiss them out of hand. Alright...

By the way Peter Maer isn't the only reporter reporting these events. That you pick on him rather than refute the information he presents is yet another ad hominem and evidence that your argument sucks and you know it. :shrug:


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: Diploid]
    #5312238 - 02/17/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Constable Medellin

Nope.

Salinas then contacted Ramiro Medellin, a former Kenedy County sheriff who works at the 50,000-acre ranch.

A CIVILIAN who works for the people hosting the hunt and someone who would likely spin things in a favorable light for his employer.





Nope.


The Official Police Report refers to him as a CONSTABLE.



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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5312246 - 02/17/06 10:30 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

A Former Sheriff and now Constable was on the scene.

What do you want Mulder and Scully, out there right away?


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5312247 - 02/17/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

For which law enforcement agency does he work?


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: Diploid]
    #5312251 - 02/17/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Like a Sheriff, County.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5312252 - 02/17/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

A Former Sheriff and now Constable was on the scene.

And both were barred from interviewing Cheney until the next morning, rendering any evidence that he might have been impaired by alcohol moot.

Why, after 80-something posts, can none of you give a plausible reason why the Secret Service barred LEO from interviewing Cheney until the next morning?


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5312255 - 02/17/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Like a Sheriff, County

Neither of those is a law enforcement agency.

Try again.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: Diploid]
    #5312260 - 02/17/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe you need a Breathalyzer.

The Sheriff spoke on the phone with the Constable who was interviewing eyewitness. The Constable said it was an accident and the sheriff said fine we will send a sheriff in the morning.

I have driven past that ranch many times, and its in the middle of fucking nowhere.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5312263 - 02/17/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Again.

Constable Medellin

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Texas constables are elected officials, similar to a sheriff, who are responsible for providing services for their precinct justice of the peace, but also for his county, and the state district courts. They have full law enforcement authority throughout their respective counties and the state.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: lonestar2004]
    #5312310 - 02/17/06 11:01 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Alright, he was a part-time constable whose employer was the host of the hunt. You don't see a conflict of interest here?

The Sheriff spoke on the phone with the Constable who was interviewing eyewitness.

Ah yes, those reliable eye-witnesses again, including "No, Zero, Zippo alcohol was served during lunch" Armstrong.

I have driven past that ranch many times, and its in the middle of fucking nowhere.

So the sheriff couldn't investigate a SHOOTING the same day it happened because it was a long drive? This makes no sense.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: Diploid]
    #5312689 - 02/18/06 03:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, you guys are still arguing this thing.

The left is so left wallowing in their own inability to speak with one mouth, with one vision and one solution that they have resorted to making issues out of wild nothings.


Come on, speak to something that really plays a significance in the world theatre.

FUCK!


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5312810 - 02/18/06 06:41 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

The law applying differently depending on how important you are "plays a significance" in my world theatre. :thumbdown:


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: Diploid]
    #5319717 - 02/20/06 12:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.lf8.org/taboo/ballistics_test_bb.wmv

chew on that. "scientific" experiment proving that Cheney shot the poor guy less than 20ft away.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #5319846 - 02/20/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Wow, you guys are still arguing this thing.

The left is so left wallowing in their own inability to speak with one mouth, with one vision and one solution that they have resorted to making issues out of wild nothings.


Come on, speak to something that really plays a significance in the world theatre.






The right wing is just as responsible for this type of bickering. If Clinton gets criticized for being immoral because he got a bj, it is worth while to question whether or not this accident might be alcohol related. If Cheney got away with lying about how intoxicated he was, it brings his character into question.

While I would love it if character wasn't significant in politics, this is not the case. As long as politicians keep posturing as "moral leaders" (when in fact it is their job to lie to people to make themselves popular), the public can and should debate the authenticity of their political personna.

Although I understand the sentiment and I wish there was more debate about some things that Cheny DID lie about while in office that had a lot more negative impact on the world than some good ole buddy getting shot while hunting.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: Diploid]
    #5322125 - 02/20/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"Dick" Cheney is just that, he's a DICK he was wrong to not come forward with an apology...


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: kotik]
    #5322728 - 02/21/06 01:17 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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http://www.lf8.org/taboo/ballistics_test_bb.wmv

chew on that. "scientific" experiment proving that Cheney shot the poor guy less than 20ft away.




That test seemed very reasonable to me. It seems right that Cheney MUST have been much closer than he claimed in order for the bbs to have been concentrated in such a small area on Whittington.








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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: Learyfan]
    #5322736 - 02/21/06 01:24 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That test is absurb. The choke on Cheneys shotgun is unknown, so we don't know what natural disposition toward spreading the pellets had. Maybe the guy that made this can team up with the Pentagon-was-hit-by-a-missile crowd.

Jesus christ, it's fuckin alex jones, ugh.


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Re: Dick Cheney shoots man [Re: MisterMyco]
    #5323117 - 02/21/06 07:02 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Jesus christ, it's fuckin alex jones, ugh.




Alex Jones? It's fucking Jesus Christ, ugh!


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