Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

Sporeworks
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Art and money
    #2293317 -

Do they go together? If you are making art for profit as opposed to self expression, is it then art? That is, if you are making it with someone else's - an imagined other's - sense of aesthetics in mind - to appeal rather than to please one's own tastes - is it art? Does it lose something in the process? Can artists be both business people and artists? Where do the two merge? That is, in order to be successful, the more businessperson you are - producing and marketing a commercial product, do you concurrently compromise the art?
Is there an element of this in famous art? Art that is not famous because of the quality of the art but because of the ability of the artist as a businessperson? How much? Obviously fame is not a measure of great art (as the work of numerous pop artists demonstrates). Is it even a measure? When?


--------------------
Computer games don't affect kids. I mean if Pacman affected our generation as kids, we'd all be running around in a darkened room, munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.

"Being bitter and hateful is like drinking a vial of poison and hoping the other person gets sick" FreakQLibrium

"My motto from here on out is: If someone or something (including me) in my life is conducting themselves in such a way that they can be seen on Jerry Springer, it's time to take out the garbage!!! When you stop taking their behaviour personally and see their antics as a true reflection on their character, it becomes absolutely nauseating." Anon. on abusive relationships.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Art and money [Re: enotake2]
    #2293333 -

most art is made for profit. nothing wrong with that.

profit = appeal.

2001: a space odyssy made alot of profit because it appealed to many people.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Art and money [Re: lostsuitcase]
    #2293412 -

Art doesn't have to appeal to the highest possible number of people. That's a misconception, backed up by governments and the art establishment. Where art used to be about criticising society, it's now become a closed circuit with "experts" - curators mostly - who determine what's "hot" and what's "not". A lot of succesful artists nowadays are just paying lip service to the art establishment, which isn't about innovation anymore. It's about selling. Producing highly digestable pulp for the masses.
A lot of new artists don't get a chance because they don't fit the picture of mass-production art: record labels don't take any chances on new musical concepts, because they might not be profitable. When a bland, poppy band wants to sign up and show marketing potential, they get a deal. Bands like Queen wouldn't have been able to get a record label if they'd started now.

Damn that A. Hole Warhol.


--------------------
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

- Aristotle

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Art 'n artists
( 1 2 3 all )		 Mixomatosis 3,498 44 12/14/03 10:29 PM
by Positronius
* what does art mean to you? ferago2 1,194 7 06/17/04 08:59 AM
by redgreenvines
* Art Zeus 1,335 10 11/04/01 04:39 PM
by Zeus
* art can be objectively compared : part 2
( 1 2 3 all )		 SneezingPenis 4,255 49 11/29/07 08:33 PM
by Boots
* Who is the Artist?
( 1 2 all )		 raytrace 2,783 34 01/31/06 10:48 AM
by swampthing
* Art...what is it and who decides what it is?
( 1 2 all )		 trippindad82 4,339 26 05/12/07 02:58 AM
by mr_kite
* Art CeeThruMeer 584 1 06/14/05 03:49 AM
by redgreenvines
* Is your ego stopping you from appreciating art? Scarfmeister 706 4 02/26/03 06:52 PM
by Strumpling

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
586 topic views. 1 members, 189 guests and 32 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 16 queries.