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OfflineScarfmeister
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Is your ego stopping you from appreciating art?
    #1337571 - 02/26/03 12:13 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

I have noticed that i have some problems really appreciating art and literature. For example. When i read a book i can get totally engrossed in it and then when i put it down my mind starts analyzing what i have just read. and within minutes i have turned a great reading experience in to crap.

I think things like. Where is this author trying to take me? And isn't it a little obvious. How presumptuous o him to think i would fall for such an easy grip. Nah I'm smarter than that. I can picture the author sitting there writing his book thinking about what kind of emotions he is trying to convey and how he can sucker the gullible reader to absorb those emotions.
I start to analyze really clever passages and think to myself that in reality it wasn't very clever only banal and pretentious.

Art can also have the same effect on me. I think "you tought that was pretty brilliant huh?" " well it's NOT. Its insulting. Your only using the same tired bullshit that you know the masses will like." Its been done before, by real masters, not posers duplicating a genius visions."

I need to stop giving myself so much credit.






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Re: Is your ego stopping you from appreciating art? [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #1338312 - 02/26/03 05:23 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

constructive criticism is always good, and if you got some then I don't see why you should deny it. But on the other hand if your analysis and critique are taking away from the joy and experience of art, then maybe that is a sign you should just let yourself be absorbed by the work.

P.S. all art is intentional if the creator knows what he's doing.


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Re: Is your ego stopping you from appreciating art? [Re: chodamunky]
    #1338325 - 02/26/03 05:30 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe you could consider actually really looking at art not crap. I find that a lot of stuff goes under the guise of art in order to sell and forces people to say ohh ahh i like this when really they don't. It's kind of like propaganda. I mean have you ever seen a bunch of "sophisticated" people standing around gapping at the stupidest piece of tripe?
Real art is transcendental. So maybe next time if you have that experience you could feel like you got ripped off rather than the self-mutalation and catholic guilt... Maybe they are relying on typical measures and recipes... Hey, make your own!


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Re: Is your ego stopping you from appreciating art? [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #1338597 - 02/26/03 07:30 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

The ego might have something to do with it- it is shaped into appreachating what 'good' art is. Art is and should be subjective. A Picaso might look like crap to you and good to someone else, but maybe he has been shaped into a great artist by people who make it out to be something more than it really is. Picaso might be a great artist in his own way, but many other artists that are great never get recognized and never will. It all deals with hype.

I'm in a lot of art classes and I notice the instructors overanalizing art to where they make any piece of crap look like genious. Me personally. I'm pretty picky when it comes to art- I can go thru tons of artist's art with just a glance and think to myself 'What a bunch of crap' while others stare at it forever and overanalize it. I like only a few artists, and most of them are never heard of and never will be. So howcome all theze oldschool artists that all paint the same are so great? They are all conforming to the same frickin style!

Sorry 'bout the rant.  :blush: 


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Re: Is your ego stopping you from appreciating art? [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #1338754 - 02/26/03 08:52 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

SUSPEND YOUR DISBELIEF.

LET THE ARTIST STROKE YOUR BRAIN.

DON'T RESIST :smile:


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