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OfflineLearyfanS
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Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation"
    #2274074 - 01/26/04 08:08 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

1) Saddam had weapons of mass destruction


2) Saddam was involved with 9-11


3) We needed to take Saddam out because he was a brutal dictator



See this thread
Bush is buddy buddy with Islam Karimov


What were the other reasons for supporting the war at this point??? Not trying to be a dick. Just asking, is all.




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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Learyfan]
    #2274143 - 01/26/04 08:51 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

There are many complex issues dealing with national and international policy that both you and I, as common citizens, could not possibly understand without being in such a position as a policymaker.

There is much more to running a country than giving a few bulleted listings of 'reasons' why the government makes such decisions.

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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: SaviorSix]
    #2274195 - 01/26/04 09:14 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, then they can do anything they want because the issue is so complex. Even when every reason that they've given to take us to war has been disproven, they can just fall back on the idea that "it's just too complex".

Don't let these creeps brainwash you dude.




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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: SaviorSix]
    #2274262 - 01/26/04 09:41 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I hope that was sarcastic.

That's the mode of thought that allows any terrible gov't abuse of power to happen, making the assumption that the government is doing it's job, despite evidence to the contrary. Hey, we elected em and not too many people are saying there's something wrong, they're probably doing a good job. In the end, it's irresponsible as a citizen to do so. Question them, question their reasons, keep those fuckers honest.


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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Learyfan]
    #2274291 - 01/26/04 09:53 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

So one may not depose a terrible dictator unless one deposes all terrible dictators?

Must they all be deposed simultaneously, or is it permissible to take them on one at a time?

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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Learyfan]
    #2274301 - 01/26/04 09:57 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Don't you feel safer with saddam out of power?

I sure do. Before, I locked my doors at night, but now, with Saddam out of power, I don't have to worry about any radical Iraqui Muslims breaking in my house and detonating WMD's. Thank you GW. Thank you New World Order.

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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Phred]
    #2274340 - 01/26/04 10:10 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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pinksharkmark said:
So one may not depose a terrible dictator unless one deposes all terrible dictators?

Must they all be deposed simultaneously, or is it permissible to take them on one at a time?

pinky




It's not a question of disposing of any dictators. If Bush is going to say that the reason we invaded Iraq was to save the people of Iraq, then the least he could do is not suck face with Islam Karimov, who is in the same league as Saddam.

His approval of Karimov shows that he's ok with brutal dictators killing their own people as long as they play ball. That completely flies in the face of the #3 reason we invaded Iraq this time.






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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: TrueBrode]
    #2274350 - 01/26/04 10:14 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

good for a laugh:
Bush Administration Quotes on WMD

So when do the trials start?  :tongue2:

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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Learyfan]
    #2274383 - 01/26/04 10:25 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

So what'r ya sayin? That you want us to invade Uzbekistan next?


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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #2274421 - 01/26/04 10:38 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I think you're just joking. Just in case though, i'll clarify.

No, i'm not saying we should invade Uzbekistan(BTW how do you pronounce that?). I'm saying we shouldn't invade one country under the auspices of going in to save the oppressed peoples from their evil dictator when we're finger fucking another guy in the same league.




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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Learyfan]
    #2274481 - 01/26/04 11:09 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

(Youz beck eh stan)

What is fucking disgusting is that what Bush has done is an IMPEACHABLE offense!! You cannot go to war under false pretenses.

As Michael Moore said:

'What is the worst lie a president can tell?

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

OR.....

"He has weapons of mass destruction-the world's deadliest weapons-which pose a direct threat to the United States, our citizens and our friends and allies." '


This administration is fucking despicable.


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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: MisterKite]
    #2274531 - 01/26/04 11:28 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Our priorities are really in order, huh?

So people, what are the remaining reasons people are still happy that we went to war?





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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Learyfan]
    #2274549 - 01/26/04 11:35 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Okay... I think I've got it now.

Bush must publicly repudiate the current leader of Uzbekistan -- maybe even add Uzbekistan to the Axis of Evil club. Until he does so, the deposition of Hussein is invalid.

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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Phred]
    #2274571 - 01/26/04 11:51 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

In order to 'fight evil,' Bush has allied himself with evil. When good compromises with evil, it is evil that comes out ahead. My grandmother used to say "two wrongs don't make a right," apparently Mr. Bush disagrees with this as do many who support him.


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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Learyfan]
    #2274721 - 01/26/04 01:03 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)


Here I have a map of the Middle East in which I have drawn X?s over the countries which Bush has invaded. These are, of course, two rather large countries, and therefore could be strategically important. Saudi Arabia, of course, is ruled by a much-hated royal family which has been closely allied with the U.S. government for quite some time now, so we needn?t worry about them being hostile towards the U.S. And let?s lot forget our long-time ally, Israel. Now look at the big landmass between the two X?s. How much ya wanna bet that?s next on the list? If you add an X to that country, think about how much of that region we would control. We could basically dictate all affairs in that region. Now, I?m sure we had other reasons for invading Iraq as well, but I just thought I?d throw that out there.


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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: silversoul7]
    #2274727 - 01/26/04 01:07 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

now we'll just have the troops meet in the middle and the whole place will be straightened out.  :thumbup:




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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Learyfan]
    #2274732 - 01/26/04 01:08 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

'What is the worst lie a president can tell?

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

OR.....

"He has weapons of mass destruction-the world's deadliest weapons-which pose a direct threat to the United States, our citizens and our friends and allies."




Quote:

So people, what are the remaining reasons people are still happy that we went to war?




i think the answer to both ?s deals with a strong popular preference for cynicism in general..irregardless of the facts..or lack thereof...and this was obviously present before bush...


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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: ]
    #2274752 - 01/26/04 01:18 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

mushmaster said:
now we'll just have the troops meet in the middle and the whole place will be straightened out.  :thumbup:



Hooray for imperialism! :thumbup:


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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: silversoul7]
    #2274762 - 01/26/04 01:23 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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Here I have a map of the Middle East in which I have drawn X?s over the countries which Bush has invaded. These are, of course, two rather large countries, and therefore could be strategically important. Saudi Arabia, of course, is ruled by a much-hated royal family which has been closely allied with the U.S. government for quite some time now, so we needn?t worry about them being hostile towards the U.S. Now look at the big landmass between the two X?s. How much ya wanna bet that?s next on the list? If you add an X to that country, think about how much of that region we would control. We could basically dictate all affairs in that region. Now, I?m sure we had other reasons for invading Iraq as well, but I just thought I?d throw that out there.




You aren?t suggesting that having control over the middle east is a legitimate reason for going to war, right? Cause that?s my question, really. What are the supposedly legitimate reasons for us going to war now that #?s 1-3 have been proven untrue?

BTW, there is no way in the world we?ll attack Iran or anyone else for a long while. I can?t see any way in the world how Americans would stand for it after seeing the debacle Bush has us in in Iraq.




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Re: Excuses for "Operation Iraqi Liberation" [Re: Learyfan]
    #2274778 - 01/26/04 01:32 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

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You aren't suggesting that having control over the middle east is a legitimate reason for going to war, right? Cause that's my question, really. What are the supposedly legitimate reasons for us going to war now that #'s 1-3 have been proven untrue?



I am suggesting that that is the administration's reason for going in there. After all, it is perfectly consistent with PNAC's ideals, and of course we know who some of the members of PNAC are. Anyway, I think if there was any good reason for going into Iraq, it would be to topple a murderous dictator. Other than that, it's all imperialism.

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BTW, there is no way in the world we'll attack Iran or anyone else for a long while. I can't see any way in the world how Americans would stand for it after seeing the debacle Bush has us in in Iraq.



The continued support for Bush has convinced me that there is no end to how much bullshit the American people will swallow.


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