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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: buttonion]
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" In addition to a lot of what others said, it can't "prove" anything really"


it doesn't try to.  the proof is in the math, not the science. the calculus was invented for science.  and what is math?? numbers?? numbers are a concept.  they don't exist, but it is USEFUL.

science doesn't prove yes, but it does work.  I'm typing on a keyboard right now.  each of these keys is like a capacitor (stores charge) and everytime we press a key the charge gets released as a signal and so on.  it's really complex actually and without science it wouldn't be here. 

I am beginning to see many hidden assumptions in the method, but hey, it works doesn't it?  I guess one jsut needs to keep in mind the science isn't the answer to every question.  :smile:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: ]
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Science is the eternal search for why things they are. I believe philosophy is verry much alike science. I am damn sure the next step in science is in the spiritual direction and thats when most of our questions will be answered.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Frog]
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Frog said:
Science cannot explain karma.


Oh yes it can.  Karma is justification right.  Karma is just "you reap what you sow", you get what you give which is simple logics in reality.  The whole law of nature is run on karma, a tree that drops a seed will cause a new tree to grow... there's a law that all of nature runs by.  People seem to forget that we are a part of nature all the time which is really sad, but we cant cut eachother from natures law anyway, we will allways be run by natures justification (or karma as you call it), science can explain this.  I could try to explain it but I dont have the words to even start (neither the patience).
PS.  Read my signature :wink:


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: filthysock]
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Well, I kind of thought that if I was wrong, someone would point it out.

Thanks,  filthy sock.  :wink:


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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Holy shit, I'm laughing so hard at you guys right now! I'd seen that first post about you hacking into Frog's account, but then I kept getting SQL errors & didn't see the rest of it. If I hadn't already, I'd give you 5 shrooms just for this.

And, I have to ask - Did you know Frog was this gullible or was that a lucky (and very entertaining) coincidence?


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I'm just see-through faded, super jaded, and out of my mind. - R.I.P. Layne

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Renegade8]
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Renegade, I was kind of glad that the whole thing was deleted.

Can we not discuss my "gullibility" any futher?


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Frog]
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Frog said:
Renegade, I was kind of glad that the whole thing was deleted.

Can we not discuss my "gullibility" any futher?


Ummm...hate to break it to ya, but it wasn't deleted.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Renegade8]
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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: ]
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I was on the wrong thread. Never mind.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: ]
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Mr Mushrooms, I apologize. When Phluck popped in with his "thread-jackers" comment, I thought he created the thread. However, I now realize my error, and I have amended the complaint yet again.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: ]
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Mr_Mushrooms said:
Ahem, ladies, if you please, could we please stick to the topic?

:lol:


I know, I know...but I missed out on all the fun yesterday.  :frown:

A day late and a dollar short, as usual.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Renegade8]
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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: ]
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Hey, stop making me laugh so much at work.  I'm gonna get busted!  :lol:

I really do feel bad for posting on this thread without at least adding something, but I don't seem have anything to say on this topic.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Renegade8]
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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: ]
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"Axiom #398: Science cannot understand humor. They can show causation but they cannot explain why anything has to be funny"

Is it supposed to? I think that argument is kinda lame because while science doesn't focus on humor, a lot of scientist do.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: kaiowas]
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"They can show causation but they cannot explain why anything has to be funny"

Evolutionary reasons for humour could be speculated upon, but again, simply because science has not yet offered a well researched explanation of humour, does not mean it is unable to.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Phluck]
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"Evolutionary reasons for humour could be speculated upon, but again, simply because science has not yet offered a well researched explanation of humour, does not mean it is unable to. "

this is true.  I'm jsut kinda confused about humor though because I thought humor was just the connection your mind makes with a certain situation.  someone who mainly operates from a perverted standpoint would see a lot of different things that are funn than opposed to those who don't normally think that way. 

why ask why is something funny?? can we find out the mechanics of humor as well?  if so how??

I don't think humor could be taught (though I am open for suggestion :wink:)  I think humor is like an attribute of the person based on their experiences.  like they could have esperienced an event in the pass and something simple as a cat getting run over would remind them of that situation and thus they'll laugh.

others might not think so about our dead puss.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Phluck]
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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: ]
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"But I didn't say science was flawed. I said it was limited. Just because you cannot change a flat tire with a fly swatter doesn't mean the fly swatter isn't a good tool. It is a good tool, for swatting flies."
that was such a good quote i just thought id make everyone read it again  :tongue2:

As for humour perhaps the inability of science to fully understand the emotional comes from the degree of seperation between the real and observed world that weve been talking about in the what is real? thread. How can science hope to explain what is funny if no two people have the same sense of humour? humous lacks existance in the objective world and is then outside the 'real of science'

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: PHARMAKOS]
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