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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Frog]
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Cuz I da man.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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hehe. I wonder if that's a new 'feature' on the Shroomery...
was it always like that or was there a unique URL for each account?
...

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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lol

Well, you make it awfully difficult for me to hate you. 

Do I have to explain all those Christmas pictures? :grin:


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: infidelGOD]
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I doubt it's new... but I could be wrong.



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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Frog]
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LoL...Nobody saw your pictures. :wink:

Did you already figure it out and just playing along?  


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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I think that no one can see these posts but you and me right now, somehow. It must have changed when you started this, and I noticed my response to your first post on this issue is in red. I wasn't sure, actually. But this is a pretty good trick. How do you make it stop?

I really am gullible, ya know.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Frog]
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I think that no one can see these posts but you and me right now, somehow.

exactly. We shifted out of phase.
It started right after the glitch, after your 'red' post.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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What about infidelGOD's post. How come he posted what he posted? Can't he see what we're writing? Or is he only responding to your first post saying that you hacked my account? And how did you do it? Never mind. I don't want to know.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Frog]
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Frog, do you realize we're in the Twilight Zone?


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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Well, I do now, of course. It's kind of cool. But there's a part of me that thinks this might just be another joke, and everyone can read what I'm posting to you right now. So I'm going to be vewy, vewy careful.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Frog]
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Look behind you, and you'll see the evidence that it's NOT a joke.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Frog]
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Frog, he pulled a fast one on you. That link isn't for "Frog's" home, it is for whoever is logged on. When I followed it, it took me to my home.


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: SpecialEd]
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That's okay. I will be filing a complaint for emotional distress in federal court tomorrow.

"Frog v. SkorpivoMusterion"

How's that for an attention-grabber?

(*Sigh* I'm so easy to fuck with. *Double sigh*)

(Now everyone knows how gullible I am. *More sighs*)


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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I had done so well, so far, covering up for how gullible I am.

Thanks, Skorpivo.



"You can believe anything you want. However, the Universe is not obliged to keep a straight face."

(And now you can see why I make a good criminal attorney.)


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Edited by Frog (01/18/04 04:42 PM)

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
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Thread hijackers. :rolleyes:


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http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Phluck]
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First Amended Complaint:

FROG, an individual, and PHLUCK, an individual,

v.

SKORPIVOMUSTERION, an intolerable asswipe, and DOES 1 through 100, inclusive.

:grin:


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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: Frog]
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"I think that no one can see these posts but you and me right now, somehow. It must have changed when you started this, and I noticed my response to your first post on this issue is in red. I wasn't sure, actually. But this is a pretty good trick. How do you make it stop?

I really am gullible, ya know."

if you think that you're gullable does that mean that you are??? btw, you should know by now, someone's ALWAYS watching  :evil:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: ]
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"There are many people, some even post here, that have that kind of curious blend of hubris/ignorance when it comes to science.

you and you big words and your....small.....difficult words :wink:

hubris: excessive pride, arrogance

maybe, but I think to a certain extent that it's good that some people talk about it.  it only works though if the other person is open-minded enough to see that one point of view doesn't hold up for everything. my only real gripe actually, is that people think scientists don't get philisophical.  this is really far from the truth.

"I disgree. Science is a tool and every tool has limits."

agreed.  hey we can combine our efforts here then MM.  the tools have the limitation, as well as the ones using them :smile:

"People who are only familiar with one view. Science is the easy stuff imo. If you want to think and be challenged try philosophy."


science, easy????  hehe I need you to help me to solve for the mass in a sprin mass ssytem, "I don't know the spring constant, damnit!"

really though easy in what way???


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: ]
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The scientific method cannot lead to truth, in the sense that a proposition is either true or false- After testing a hypothesis, evidence consistent with the hypothesis does not prove the hypothesis. To conclude so would be fallicious and is called "affirming the consequent:"

If p(hypothesis), then q(predicted outcome)
q
Therefore p INVALID

However, we can rule out hypotheses. Modus Ponens:

If p, then q
Not q
Therefore not p VALID

What are the limitations of science? In addition to a lot of what others said, it can't "prove" anything really. Over time it allows us to find the theories that best account for the data- the theories that have been retained after others have been validly rejected. BUUUTTTT... even these theories are not the "truth" in any absolute sense (as many are so ready to believe). "Degrees of truth" is a more useful convention I think. Even theories for which there has been found no exception should not be taken as absolutely true- they are just conventions, maps, fingers pointing to the moon. Mistaking ideas for reality = poor mental health according to Buddhism (and other spiritual schools) and I think this is Big Wisdom. Adopt the idea of "conventional truth" rather than "absolute truth." Ooops... I guess this might all belong in another thread. What are the limitations of science? Way more than the average "scientific naturalist" (the new buzzword for atheists who look to science to answer typically religious questions) thinks. Good thread.


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Concepts which have been proved to be useful in ordering things easily acquire such an authority over us that we forget their human origins and accept them as invariable.- Albert Einstein

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Re: The Limitations of Science [Re: buttonion]
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