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InvisibleRandalFlagg
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Cheney's grim vision: decades of war
    #2248293 - 01/17/04 02:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

What is Cheney thinking??? Expanding our military around the globe?
It is already expansive as it is. This is one major reason why
people hate us; we have troops on the soil of many many countries.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/01/15/MNGK14AC301.DTL

Los Angeles -- In a forceful preview of the Bush administration's
expansionist military policies in this election year, Vice President
Dick Cheney Wednesday painted a grim picture of what he said was the
growing threat of a catastrophic terrorist attack in the United
States and warned that the battle, like the Cold War, could last
generations.

The vice president's tone, in a major address to the Los Angeles
World Affairs Council, was sobering, unlike many other comments
recently by senior administration officials that have stressed
successes in the war on terrorism.

Cheney mentioned only in passing the administration's domestic
policies, while saying President Bush would present a blueprint of
his domestic goals in next Tuesday's State of the Union speech.

Cheney devoted the half-hour speech to a frightening characterization
of the war on terrorism and the new kind of mobilization he said it
demanded. He sounded the alarm about the increasing prospects of a
major new terrorist attack and the extraordinary responses that are
required. While many of his remarks echoed past comments by the
president and senior officials, Cheney struck a surprisingly dour
note and suggested only an administration of proven ability could
manage the dramatic overhaul necessary for the nation's security
apparatus.

"One of the legacies of this administration will be some of the most
sweeping changes in our military, and our national security strategy
as it relates to the military and force structure, and how we're
based, and how we used it in the last 50 or 60 years, probably since
World War II," Cheney said. "I think the changes are that dramatic."

He also said the administration was planning to expand the military
into even more overseas bases so the United States could wage war
quickly around the globe.

"Scattered in more than 50 nations, the al Qaeda network and other
terrorist groups constitute an enemy unlike any other that we have
ever faced, " he said. "And as our intelligence shows, the terrorists
continue plotting to kill on an ever-larger scale, including here in
the United States."

Cheney provided no details, however, of the kinds of attacks he
expected.

Although the administration has been criticized by some, including
most of the Democratic candidates for president, for not doing enough
to eliminate known programs for developing weapons of mass
destruction in such countries as North Korea, Cheney said they were a
priority and confronted the United States with its gravest threat.

Again, he presented the risks of a terrorist attack involving these
weapons in stark terms.

"Instead of losing thousands of lives, we might lose tens or even
hundreds of thousands of lives as the result of a single attack, or a
set coordinated of attacks," Cheney said.

While polls show that many Americans support the president's
aggressive war on terrorism, he also has many critics for the way the
battle has been waged. The president initially justified the war in
Iraq by saying that Saddam Hussein had active programs to develop
chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. The United States has yet
to find evidence of such programs since overthrowing Hussein and
installing a military occupation, prompting questions about the
president's agenda and the quality of intelligence he is receiving.

In addition, an expert at the U.S. Army War College, Jeffrey Record,
recently released a 62-page analysis that concluded the war in Iraq
might have set back American efforts to stop terrorists by diverting
precious resources to a battle that will do little to prevent new
attacks.

As a result, Record concluded, the war on terrorism "lacks strategic
clarity, embraces unrealistic objectives and may not be sustainable
over the long haul."

But in his speech Wednesday, Cheney compared this moment to the
challenges faced by President Harry Truman at the beginning of the
Cold War, when there was a hot war flaring on the Korean Peninsula
and a long-term nuclear standoff developing with the Soviet Union.

Cheney said Bush was establishing, as Truman had, a new structure for
a new long-term war and spreading the military into new areas of the
globe. "On Sept. 11, 2001, our nation made a fundamental commitment
that will take many years to see through," Cheney said.


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2248341 - 01/17/04 02:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I wonder if he is referring to places in Southern Asia/Indonesia ?


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2248670 - 01/17/04 05:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

What is Cheney thinking???
george soros provides an answer...

another way of viewing the bubble is that the US dollar is being increasingly backed by weapons and munitions..which are used to hold a gun to the heads of nations otherwise bent on dumping their dollars in a catastrophic selloff.. and also as a sort of "stock option" on property to be stolen by the US military..which would then add to the value of the dollar...but as iraq has shown..such "options" dont always pay off...and there might come a point where the world calls our bluff..and all the munitions are exploded..with nothing else to back the dollar...thats when the bubble bursts...

EDIT: cheney's dystopian future raises the ? about why cheneyism is so popular with the majority...and if you ask ppl that ?..you will find out that they are not as naive as you might have guessed...often you will get an answer like "to keep the slackers in line"(tm)..which in an offhand way ties into soros' arguement about inflationary pressure on the dollar...


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Edited by Annapurna1 (01/17/04 05:47 PM)


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2248832 - 01/17/04 06:22 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

think haliburton greed mostly poor cheney


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2250092 - 01/18/04 11:00 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

one day, america will own the land, sea, ski and stars.

and then we will be truly free.

god bless us all!


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: afoaf]
    #2251801 - 01/19/04 02:35 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

one day, america will own the land, sea, ski and stars.

and the repoops will own america...
the american prospect



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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2254619 - 01/20/04 12:44 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2254646 - 01/20/04 12:56 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thank heaven the world has the United States to save us from ourselves....


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: Rono]
    #2255967 - 01/20/04 02:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

How would you keep a straight face listening to that shit?! i suspect there will be a terrorist attack on america within the next year, mabye planned or coincidental....ie: allowed to happen.


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: Azmodeus]
    #2255983 - 01/20/04 02:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

they wont need to simulate another terrorist attack..when they can use electronic voting instead...the timing of such an attack might be too obvious..and very obvious to any non-amerikkkan...


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2256037 - 01/20/04 02:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

so were the wmd, but americans especially seem to have forgotten, or throw in alternate reason x into the picture.... :rolleyes:


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #2256659 - 01/20/04 05:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

"Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. "

- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961


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Re: Cheney's grim vision: decades of war [Re: ]
    #2256734 - 01/20/04 06:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

"whatever napoleon says is right!"

after all, we don't want jones to come back do we?


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