Stonehenge said:

> I prefer the Democrats...

We know.

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KauaiOrca said:

The idea that Donald Trump can AND WILL fully self fund a presidential campaign all the way through if he wins the nomination is total and complete NONSENSE.  He is going to need donations and a lot of them.  Trump has already lost a lot of his lucrative cash flow generating projects (TV, clothing, etc.) and it takes CASH and lots of it to run political operation.  Most of Trump's wealth is on paper, in assets that are not so easily or quickly converted into cash.  In addition his hotel properties will begin losing business as more and more democrats intentionally choose NOT to check into his properties. 

He can handle the next few months on his own as he's mostly living off of free media exposure, but when the time comes to start buying ads and building a real ground game, Trump will do what everyone does ... go after big donations.  Will he be more "independent" than a Bush or Clinton?  Probably, but the idea that no one will be influencing him is total and complete nonsense.

I think Trump is good for the process as he is shaking things and I do think, if he were to win which I think is a huge longshot, he'd bring in a very, very different team of advisors, cabinet members and department heads than we've ever seen in American politics.  That might be good as a whole  generation of political insiders gets purged the system. 

We haven't really seen the dirt that a team like the Bushes or Clintons can turn up on a guy like Trump and I'd imagine it will be surprising when it starts to emerge. 

IMHO, America needs a constitutional convention to make some very serious changes to our system ... to bring in more direct democracy principles like Switzerland has, to limit the political season to 4 months total like some European nations do, to really reduce the impact of big money on politics and to generate MUCH MORE visibility and transparency into who is paying politicians for what favors.  A never ending political cycle where fund raising and campaigning begins the day after an election has got to stop.

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WAN said:

Hi Orca...why is this bad?

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He lies and exaggerates too much...

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hostileuniverse said:

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He lies and exaggerates too much...

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If that was a disqualifier, we wouldn't have gotten stuck with Obama...

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KauaiOrca said:

rxb said:

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They ARE NOT all the same.  There is absolutely no frigging way possible that Gore or Clinton would have launched an enormous ground invasion of Iraq in 2003.  Would they have increased sanctions or maybe some targeted strikes?  Probably.  But a full scale ground invasion with a multi trillion dollar nation building program that still continues?  No frigging way.

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if their bosses say jump they jump

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You're missing the bigger point.  They have DIFFERENT bosses.  Do you truly think the Koch's are asking for the same things that Soros or Steyer or the Teachers union of California are asking for?  That's what you're missing.  Do you think that when Gore's group gives millions they're asking for the same things that Exxon is asking for?  Get serious, bud.  The different parties have different "bosses" as you call it and they push for different things ... in some cases radically different things.

There is no "ONE BOSS" that controls the whole thing.  There are lots of people trying to push things this way and that way.  The notion that there's an uber controlling super boss at the top is utter an complete nonsense.

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Hillary was a hit at the Iowa state fair. Politicians are pretty fake to begin with, but Hillary takes the cake.

Here's some funny photo ops.

This pork chop it a total prop. She's got the Fred Flintstone grip with two perfect bites taken out of the chop. I'm sure one of her aides was forced to bite her pork.

Look everyone!!! I'm just like yoooo!


Need to get a pic so they think I ate some. Eyes wide open Hillary.


Evidence of bites. Hey ya'll, I'm hopping in a pickup just like yoo's alls do.
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Hey Timmy!!! If we weren't here in front of everyone I'd bite your face off and make you wet your pants. Smile!



Here's the article if anyone's interested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199402/Americans-don-t-care-emails-never-ask-claims-Clinton-descends-Iowa-State-Fair.html

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Americans don't care about my emails - they 'never' ask me about them, claims Clinton as she descends on the Iowa State Fair

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rxb said:

i have no idea what a showbiz pizza robot is,

but i agree... the face they have the left put up is young and ready to make a difference... and hillary isnt either, she's a war monger and a liar... i dont think the emails change that one way or the other, and i dont think the emails will turn up anything damaging either.

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Here's Billy Bob of Show-biz Pizza. Showbiz was the low rent version of Chuck E Cheese.


Well. there aren't any emails considering she deleted all of them, and the main issue will be how she handled that data. Obama has total control of her with the server investigation and whatever he wants he gets. Obama doesn't want her fucking up his shit so she's a goner, and all we can do is watch her fade away just like 2008.

As far as the one party going on. I think with what has transpired since last years midterm it's clear we have been sold out by the right. I know there's a way bigger picture, but minus the detailed NWO talk, this is seen by a majority of this country now. The fix is in for your average everyday joe to recognize.

KauaiOrca said:

Attorney for the IT firm that had Clinton's email server said in an interview on Thursday that there is another server that had copies of Hillary's email files. 

God, I hope they nail that bitch and indict her.  If ever there was a time when America NEEDS its criminal justice system to work, this is it.

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hostileuniverse said:

ya know, I remember when McCain was running and all we heard from the left was old he was, now we got Hillary, BS, maybe Biden, all old as fuck, the hypocrisy is stunning...

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The Ecstatic said:

hostileuniverse said:

ya know, I remember when McCain was running and all we heard from the left was old he was, now we got Hillary, BS, maybe Biden, all old as fuck, the hypocrisy is stunning...

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Yeah and I remember the right telling us experienced mattered, but then they were like actually nah let's elect a neurosurgeon or reality tv star.

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WAN said:

KauaiOrca said:

Attorney for the IT firm that had Clinton's email server said in an interview on Thursday that there is another server that had copies of Hillary's email files. 

God, I hope they nail that bitch and indict her.  If ever there was a time when America NEEDS its criminal justice system to work, this is it.

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Hi Orca, sorry to bother you again, but what is the difference between "indict" and "prosecute" in a political sense?

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