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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Enlil] * 2
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If visibility is your main agenda then why does it matter which forum it is made a sub-forum of? Why are you so stuck on it being part of OTD?

The Pub gets way more traffic than OTD. You'd have a fuckton of new posters to spike the activity in there if it was a Pub subforum.

To move it to OTD seems like a bad idea. You're just inviting drama from the people of OTD which you don't seem to want.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Ballerium] * 1
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Ballerium said:
If visibility is your main agenda then why does it matter which forum it is made a sub-forum of? Why are you so stuck on it being part of OTD?

The Pub gets way more traffic than OTD. You'd have a fuckton of new posters to spike the activity in there if it was a Pub subforum.

To move it to OTD seems like a bad idea. You're just inviting drama from the people of OTD which you don't seem to want.


Excellent points. :thumbup:

I cannot speak for everyone but I'm fairly certain that the majority of OTDers do not want RR back.

P.S. I think everybody knows mjm's true agenda is more visibility for his feeble attempts of trolling OTD regulars with a greater level of anonymity.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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Ballerium said:
If visibility is your main agenda then why does it matter which forum it is made a sub-forum of? Why are you so stuck on it being part of OTD?

The Pub gets way more traffic than OTD. You'd have a fuckton of new posters to spike the activity in there if it was a Pub subforum.

To move it to OTD seems like a bad idea. You're just inviting drama from the people of OTD which you don't seem to want.


It doesn't fit well with the pub, at all really.

And I don't want it to get so much traffic that the current regs lose their presence and can't keep up with the happenings of the board.

OTD is the most fitting place, and I think it'll give us the right amount of traffic.


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P.S. I think everybody knows mjm's true agenda is more visibility for his feeble attempts of trolling OTD regulars with a greater level of anonymity.


My agenda is exactly what I put forth in this thread, nothing more, nothing less.

You can't really think what you said is my agenda, can you? That's laughable.

I would prefer it if most of the OTD regs don't even post there, I just want your forum because that's where it fits best and I feel it'll give us the right amount of traffic.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: PLURAL]
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Then I say just make it it's own forum like someone else suggested.



And add it to the bottom of the forum list.

:trollhide:


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Ballerium]
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That would probably work out, actually.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: PLURAL] * 1
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The first question to ask is: Why do we need an anonymous forum without rules? 

Does the site really want to host a place where anyone can talk shit about anyone else without having to put his/her name on the post?  If a user wants to call another user out, he/she can do it in OTD and slug it out in there like an adult. 

It doesn't at all seem to me like a good idea to have a place where a user can anonymously accuse other users of whatever they want without any fear of so much as a bad rating.  Further, romper room has been traditionally used to pretend to be another user and thereby harm that user's credibility even further.

Why have it at all?  Does it add value to the site?  If so, is that value really worth the bandwidth, drama?  We already have a no-rules forum where people can argue like adults or children, whichever they prefer.  Why have an anonymous version of that?

Anonymous posts on this site serve a valid purpose.  In security and safety, they allow people to get information without revealing their identity.  In other fora, the reasons are different.  Even in shroomerites anonymous, the purpose is to discuss matters without being identified.

In romper room, on the other hand, anonymity only serves to shield the user from being accountable for his/her own shitty behavior.  Is that something we want?


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Enlil] * 1
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There is minimal RR drama, it's almost non-existent.

The main point of being anon in RR is not to impersonate another member, although it does happen, I like it because you can shed your identity to get rid of bias and whatnot, and you can do whatever you want without it affecting your actual account. You can assume a completely different personality in each thread, you can even assume two different personalities in the same thread, etc...


If you think RR is pointless than you must think OTD and the pub are pointless... They're all communities for the users to get together and talk with each other, the main difference, in the community aspect at least, is that in RR you can go anon to shed bias or for whatever other reason you want.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: PLURAL] * 3
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There is a big difference.  In no other forum can you literally make up lies about another user, publish those lies, and be completely unaccountable for those lies.

You don't see a problem with that?

I think the Romper room should be changed so that if you mention another user, you can't post anonymously.  Or, the functionality should be changed so that if a user is mentioned in a post, that user can see who posted it...

Of course, those suggestions aren't real suggestions...but I'm guessing you'd be against those rules because they'd take away the primary reason for the forum:  To talk shit about other users while cowardly hiding behind an anonymous post.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Enlil]
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You don't participate in the forum, you can not accurately say what the primary reason of the board is.

I do, and I can say there really isn't a "primary reason" in the sense you're saying there is, the flow of the board changes dramatically quite often .


No, I don't see a problem with being able to say pretty much whatever you want, why would I? We're talking about RR here, not a public serious forum.

I am against any rule in RR, besides ones that protect the site, such as no sourcing.

I've had literally probably 100 or so threads made talking shit about me, I don't care, it's RR, having me automatically know who the OP is would be lame and take away from the mystery. Besides, if I really want to know who a poster is I have ways to find that out without being told, which adds even another level to the shenanigans.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: PLURAL]
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Okay, so lets talk about it from the perspective of "protect[ing] the site."  RR is absolutely ripe for defamation claims.  Other fora are as well, of course, but anonymous users in RR are specifically protected by the site.  An ambitious lawyer could argue that the site is responsible for any defamatory content that is posted anonymously because the site accepts that responsibility by protecting that person's anonymity...much like journalists protect the anonymity of their sources.

Would that claim succeed?  Who knows?  The reality is that it would still cost the site real money to defend such a suit.

And no...I haven't participated in RR recently, but I just did a search and noticed that I have been discussed in there recently, and some of those discussions included false and defamatory claims about me.  I'm sure lots of users who don't participate in RR could find the same about themselves. 

Of course, I couldn't care less if people want to talk shit about other people.  My only issue is with the ability to do it anonymously.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Enlil]
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Well shit, I guess they better disband the whole site. Users get defamed on every board here.

I just got called a pedo yesterday, and you defended the users right to do so, Idk why you feel RR shouldn't be afforded the same rights....


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: PLURAL] * 2
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All it takes is a cursory glance at the Romper Room to see that it is in no way, shape, or form something that needs more exposure.  If anything, calling this attention to it will only strengthen the case to have it removed for being a waste of bandwidth.  It's pretty much the same 5 or 6 people playing anon footsie with each other and talking about your anus.

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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: PLURAL]
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Again, you're missing the point.  It's not the defamation that's the problem.  It's the ability to do so anonymously that is the problem.

I don't personally care who talks shit about me or any of the staff.  I think there should be a way to anonymously complain about the staff, but that is probably not workable.  I do care when a user can be branded a pedophile, rapist, or any number of heinous things by another user without having any way to defend himself because the accusations were posted anonymously.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Enlil]
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Anyone with half a brain wouldn't even consider the shit posted in there...  I do agree with its removal from shroomey though not because of any of your rationalizations, but because its a garbage heap that attracts the least savory of people.

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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Byrain]
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Byrain said:
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't even consider read the shit posted in there... 


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Enlil]
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Why can't you defend yourself against an anonymous poster?

You don't have to take personal shots at a user to be able to defend yourself.

I'm sure you know that already.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: PLURAL] * 1
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Why can't you just admit that it will never be your semenal challenged hunk o crap?

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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: idiotek]
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:lol:


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: PLURAL]
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Because anyone can make accusations.  Those accusations can be countered by attacking the credibility of the one making the accusations.  In fact, on the internet, that's the primary way to defend against accusations since no one is going to provide any evidence beyond his/her own word.

With an anonymous user, one can't do that.

Not too long ago, we had a thread in RR lovingly called the "aids roster."  Of course, everyone knew it was bullshit because the guy who "maintained" the roster was known for being full of shit.  An anonymous user, on the other hand, can't be viewed in the same way.  All one can do is just point out that the user is anonymous and shouldn't be trusted...beyond that, there's no defense.

And believe it or not, on this site, people are paranoid enough to believe anonymous posters if the accusation comports with their individual world views.


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Re: Staff opinion on moving Romper Room back to being a subforum of OTD? [Re: Enlil]
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Posting something anon makes you have pretty much no credibility so there's no need to take shots at the users credibility, they shed all of their credibility by deciding to make the post anonymously.

I'm done talking about this, it's off topic and I will never get anywhere debating with you.


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