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easyskunkin

Registered: 12/23/03
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Proof for telekinesis

#20548380 - 09/10/14 02:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

A post from a current thread in the S&M forum.

leedi23 said:

I tried to have this thread moved to the PSP, since the poster makes the usual claims about Randi rigging his million dollar challenge, or telekinesis being scientifically proven and that skeptics close-mindedness prevent this fact to be universally recognized as such, but to no avail.

So this video is a response to a post where I state the conditions under which I would be convinced by a telekinesis experiment :

easyskunkin said:

To demonstrate your ability to move objects with your mind, you would have to create a setting where absolutely every exterior interference with the object is eliminated, including possible air currents, magnetism, vibrations, etc… And then move the object with your mind.

Anything flawed with my standards for evidence ? Have they been met by the video ?

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L'intérêt à croire une chose n'est pas une preuve de l'existence de cette chose.
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Buster_Brown
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Re: Proof for telekinesis

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#20548575 - 09/10/14 03:18 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

There's a conflict between what the demonstrator considers "sealed" and what an observer might consider "loosely covered" and when the camera doesn't show the area of the loosely sealed lid my imagination suspects the lid being manipulated.

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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Proof for telekinesis

[Re: easyskunkin]
#20548634 - 09/10/14 03:25 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Note that we cannot see underneath the table (possible magnet) nor the top off the jar - just twist the lid.

All TK proponents act is if Randi is the only game in town. Many years ago, I (as Swami) offered big bucks for such a demonstration. Not a single detractor said I was unfair or the rules were rigged, they merely failed to show up.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2691116/fpart/all/vc/1

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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Proof for telekinesis

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#20548667 - 09/10/14 03:28 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

The reason people post such nonsense over in S&M and why I was banned for life, is because one is not allowed to debunk the alleged paranormal. Such fear of examination only means one thing.

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easyskunkin

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Re: Proof for telekinesis

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#20548678 - 09/10/14 03:30 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Buster_Brown said:

There's a conflict between what the demonstrator considers "sealed" and what an observer might consider "loosely covered" and when the camera doesn't show the area of the loosely sealed lid my imagination suspects the lid being manipulated.

I don't know what to make of the poster's intentions, but honestly it doesn't meet my standard of elimination of any exterior interference. I should maybe have said "any exterior interference susceptible to move the object" since for example the rotation of the earth might be counted as exterior interference but might be difficult to eliminate from the experiment.

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easyskunkin

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Re: Proof for telekinesis

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#20548691 - 09/10/14 03:32 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

OrgoneConclusion said:

The reason people post such nonsense over in S&M and why I was banned for life, is because one is not allowed to debunk the alleged paranormal. Such fear of examination only means one thing.

I think you were banned for life because happy, joyful bunnies disrupt the serious mood of the S&M. It's segregation.

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