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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: Phluck]
#2244858 - 01/15/04 08:08 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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I actually had thought you'd post intructions here, on the board, since I abhor IRC more than a bad case of herpes. Or.. wouldn't they hold up to the scrutiny you can give something when you can take your time reading and re-reading and making sure you've got it right?
Aside from that.
One time I took 6 dice, and started rolling them. 5 times IN A ROW, all of them came up on 6's.. that's 5 times in a row I got 6 6's. The 6th time I had a 5, and 5 6's.
Seems amazing, and it is unlikely, but I wasn't doing anything special.. that just might be the only time this century that'll happen ;p often, simple odds will trump invisible inexplicable powers.. nearly any time in fact. you could say, odds are it's just the odds
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: Glacius]
#2244891 - 01/15/04 08:20 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Glacius said: Telekenisis is real. I have done it!!
I can fly....
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Phluck
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: Mushmonkey]
#2244904 - 01/15/04 08:26 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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A believer would argue that's statistically impossible and had to be the result of something more powerful, and maybe it was (poorly made dice). When you think of how many times you roll a handful of dice in your lifetime... it's improbable that you aren't going to get a few instances of amazing coincidence.
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: Annom]
#2246066 - 01/16/04 11:54 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Annom said: I can fly....
hey, can you send me some tips please? I keep flapping my arms and jumping off of buildings, but not much happens. I know I have potential though, I can get up a couple inches for a second or two... It would be totally pimp if you could hook it up with some tips...
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: truekimbo2]
#2246826 - 01/16/04 05:54 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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can you post the exact method and technique of the exhibition you showed that day at the gathering? I believe that certain paranormal anomolies within humans do exist because of my very own personal experiences with it, i won't go into details of what i discovered but to set the record straight, i am also a very critical skeptic. IMHO i think that static electricity could have made the paper spin or gusts of air but i was not there to see it so most likely my opinions are wrong. please share with us a detailed log about what occured that day so that a fair analysis can be implemented for reference. oh, about creating migranes on other people, PM me maybe i can share some valuable info on the subject.
Edited by trippy (01/16/04 06:07 PM)
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: trippy]
#2247099 - 01/16/04 08:21 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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i went to psipog and a few other websites and honestly i have been practicing some of the techniques they describe to develop your powers. first i went to gotpsi.com to see if i had some latent power already. *sniff* i didnt. but not to be discouraged i have been trying some psi development methods and quite frankly its fun. So far i have made 'psiballs' and actually felt strong tinglys on my palms, even a kind of magnetic thing that seemed to push my hands away from each other. I also tried spoonbending for some time. That just plain didnt work. Now, i think making psiballs is not a bad way to kill some time and is probably good for real skills like concentration and visualisation. But even in spite of the physical sensations i felt i am not at all convinced that anything was happening other than the power of suggestion. After all much more powerfull things than tingly hands have been proved to be possible through placebo (sugarpills). and i have had much more intense sensations during meditation. the fact is all the thousands of cases of people experiencing their own psi powers have been just that, and the first rule of honest scientific inquiry is that you cant use yourself as a test subject.
Now, i am not a hardcore skeptic. Believe it or not i habitually draw stars in the air and recite words like 'yod-heh-vauv-heh-elohim' and other such wacky things. ANd i do this because i have experienced in myself a positive impact on my emotional well being. That is i KNOW this 'magic' works because it delivers exactly the psychological effects i desire, that is relaxation, mental well being, increased concentration, the list goes on. I even use it to achieve external goals like getting laid or making money. But i dont decieve myself into thinking that without a whole slew of real, concrete, solid actions on my part those things would happen. i do believe that i can use a ritual to help me make 20 bucks. I dont believe that the same ritual will make that 20 bucks appear in the air.
i see this as a main differance between what i call magick and what i call psi or tk. That is magick is using spiritual/metaphsical means to increase ones personal power over his surroundings , and the other claims to act directly on those surroundings without the intervening step of some other physical action. Now im still keeping an open mind, and i do believe in the occurance of things like levitation etc. anyways, ill keep trying, but the main point is that i want some solid evidence, and so far i have fond none either in my own experience or the accounts of others. what im saying is i believe very much in the power of the human mind (all success and failure begins first in the mind not in the surroundings) but i have yet to see that the human mind can influence the surroundings entirely independent of any other force, which is the premise of telekinisis (isnt it?)
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: PHARMAKOS]
#2248910 - 01/17/04 04:49 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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pharmakos, very good picking out the differnce bettween traditional magic and what i really like about psionics.
anyhow, a detailed log of what happened at the shroomery gathering: i had been talking some shit about how the government was way ahead of nearly everyone else in mind expansion, so the last day some poeple were getting ready to leave and i was like, who wants to see telekinesis. i got a thumbtack and a little peice of paper, balanced it and waited a couple seconds to see if there were many natural air currents floating around the room (like from ventilation or heater or something). then i tried moving it. i don't know, other poeple could better describe what they saw. as far as static electricity goes, and important thing to notice is the longer i would play with it, the more rotations it would get without stopping. keeping my hand directly next to it did not always result in smooth continous rotation, but sometimes it did.
anyways, mad props to the poeple that went to psipog, read the articles and then tried out some stuff.
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: truekimbo2]
#2249458 - 01/17/04 10:59 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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one thing, weather you call it psi or not that DOES work and is extremely worth the effort is lucid dreaming (they have some stuff about it in psipog) ive been screwing around with this a bit and WOW what a mindfuck. How fun. How liberating.
if you havent checked this out yet do it
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: PHARMAKOS]
#18223440 - 05/06/13 05:05 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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*bump for relevance*
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: lolwut]
#18224258 - 05/06/13 07:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Psi ability is a terrible thing to waste.
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lolwut
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This has been another Public Service Announcement by OrgoneConclusion.
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What are you up to now Swami.
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: Learyfan]
#18224846 - 05/06/13 09:56 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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PSI = Public Service Information
We have a newer member going through almost the exact same gymnastics we have seen time and again while pretending he is having original thoughts. It is almost like there is a factory or school of nonsense out there where they all come from.
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It's an initiation into the world of Mysticism and Philosophy. And I think psychedelics have something to do with it lol
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: lolwut]
#18224940 - 05/06/13 10:12 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thread cracked me up. Didn't know this parlor trick was that old. Funny thing is that I tried this with my friends and they totally believed I had psychic powers.
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Quantum mechanics plays more of a role in the dowsing remoteviewing area that i have offered to demonstrate. collapsing waves of possiblities is not at all the same as tk. You have a newer member (i have been here almost as long as orgoneconclusion)
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: treesniper119]
#18271307 - 05/15/13 10:00 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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holy fuck i cannot believe this ancient thread was resurrected. especially cause i was there and i remember that, and was NOT convinced lmao. i forgot allllll about this. holy fuck again.
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: Help on the Way]
#18271319 - 05/15/13 10:03 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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this just triggered an onslaught of good hazy memories too
-------------------- *Divine Moments of Truth* "Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon "Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead "Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter
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Re: telekinesis at the shroomery gathering. [Re: Help on the Way]
#18272110 - 05/16/13 12:59 AM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why don't you help TreeSniper as he is struggling with this non-existent 'power'.
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