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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: fearfect]
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Those are media files are on this page
http://www.psipog.net/media.php

How can static charge move a pen that heavy?

Even a toothpic takes enormous static charge to either attract or repulse.

Mind over matter is real, I don't doubt it for a second.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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I practiced telekinesis for a few months almost a year ago. I got very used to the psiwheel and could spin it and change directions at will and even had success with it under a glass (although less success).

If you are looking to improve, try practicing it with a friend. I found this resulted in opposing 'forces', so that we were each trying to spin it the opposite direction. Watch out- it can be very tiring on the head.

You've got to realize with something considered as "out there" as telekinesis is going to be met with skepticism. Most people have never seen it performed, so they have every reason not to blindly believe others' claims. Don't worry about it though, just practice for fun :smile:

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: deff]
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Edited by MAGnum (09/07/04 05:48 PM)

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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first lets try to move our love with thoughts,then work on that other stuff,but i doubt we will.When the world is love,we could move heavens,really big rocks and various little objects.lol.i'm not kidding though

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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How can static charge move a pen that heavy?

Even a toothpic takes enormous static charge to either attract or repulse.




ive been thrown across a room by a static charge from a vacuum tube.
it had not been plugged into anything for ages.
not that i'm dissing the video, just my thoughts on things that go
zap !

how does it go? -
everybody who believes in telekinesis raise my hand.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: mr crisper]
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Well, I did find telekinesis was easier while on mushrooms, but I began practicing sober, and only tried once or twice on them. Although, it doesn't seem that amazing when you're on mushrooms, almost like you have a deeper understanding of it on the subconscious level. Anyways, thanks for making this post magnum, as I think I'm going to get back into tk now :smile:

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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there are many explainations to disprove media files. I admit to playing with the wheel, and while I have "gotten" it to rotate 360 a few times, I don't immediately credit tk. I hear many people give explainations on how to perform crazy telepathy and tk feats, yet they never mention if they themselves can actually do them... I would really like to meet someone who can read minds. You know there are people paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to the first person who can prove to them that they can in fact read minds.

just don't be a sheep.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: fearfect]
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I can't read minds. I can perform telekinesis. It's not a matter of a couple 360 degree rotations, but rather a constant rotation for minutes at a time and from a distance (or smaller rotations under a glass). I realize media files don't prove anything, and even psipog makes that quite clear in the media section. The videos are intended for those who already practice telekinesis, and not intended to try and prove skeptics wrong.

I consciously have no idea how telekinesis works. No one does right now. But it does work and I can do it. Believe what you want, it's cool with me :smile:

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: deff]
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if i were you, then, I would contact james randi and claim that 1,000,000$ prize...

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: mr crisper]
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mr crisper said:
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How can static charge move a pen that heavy?

Even a toothpic takes enormous static charge to either attract or repulse.




ive been thrown across a room by a static charge from a vacuum tube.
it had not been plugged into anything for ages.
not that i'm dissing the video, just my thoughts on things that go
zap !

how does it go? -
everybody who believes in telekinesis raise my hand.


I have heard of that happenning from enormous charge inside of capasitors.  You can have it happen by touching a part of the inside of a computer monitor.  It also happenned to my friend's dad from a Capasitor in a monitor.  He hit the wall hard.  The thing says WARNIGN SHOCK HAZARD for a reason! LOL,  Was it the tube or did you touch a wire or something?

Stuff like that  happens from Voltage rather than amps because if you got hit by even half an amp you would probably die.  A million volts will throw you up against a wall but won't kill you.

Static electricity certainly can lift something like an elephant, but it takes alot of it.

My question should be

How did they get that much static charge?
How did they get this static to work through a table?
Could they use a device, and shit how the hell would it remotely controll a thing twitching.

I just don't see the way that motion was made by static unless it was generated.  Not to mention the only generator of energy is the person performing the telekinesis.

Is it possible that telekinesis works with forces similar to electons.  It is likely it does because our brain uses complex biological electronics to work.  I believe we use 40 watts per day (I could be wrong). 

I think computers are an attempt by us trying to replicate our own minds to some degree.  I think we will eventually learn how our biological, electro-chemical ciruitry works.

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fearfect said:
there are many explainations to disprove media files.  I admit to playing with the wheel, and while I have "gotten" it to rotate 360 a few times, I don't immediately credit tk.



Well, logically, you have to explore whatelse it could be.  If you don't question, you could be decieving yourself.  All factors must be ruled out.  Media files can be cut an spliced. I am not a phorensic computer expert, so I can't tell.  But whether the files are fake or not, this is real phenominon and cannot be ignored.
 
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  I hear many people give explainations on how to perform crazy telepathy and tk feats, yet they never mention if they themselves can actually do them... I would really like to meet someone who can read minds.


Then they are not actually telling you how they do it and while it may have been passed down from a respected and powerfull psychic, any advice that is given should be considderred fluff.  You are wise not to believe everything people say because people are full of shit.

I don't have full controll over hearing thoughts, it just happenns.  Especially under stress.  The first time it happenned, it was LOUD as hell.
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You know there are people paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to the first person who can prove to them that they can in fact read minds.

just don't be a sheep.


Well said.  I'm independant and quite alone.  I have my own goals with this, I will refuse many people when I get good.  I'm not practicing for the Dick Corporation's sales tactics.  I'm doing it for me.

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deff said:
I can't read minds. I can perform telekinesis. It's not a matter of a couple 360 degree rotations, but rather a constant rotation for minutes at a time and from a distance (or smaller rotations under a glass).


Wow, you have talent.  No, you have REAL talent.  You should practice changing the weather.  Try making it pour when it's already raining lightly.  I bet you really could eventually change matter like transmutting the air into something like an icecream cone.  Existance is infinate and so is the possibility.

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I realize media files don't prove anything, and even psipog makes that quite clear in the media section. The videos are intended for those who already practice telekinesis, and not intended to try and prove skeptics wrong.



Agreed

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I consciously have no idea how telekinesis works. No one does right now. But it does work and I can do it. Believe what you want, it's cool with me :smile:


It exists, but we have yet to proove it's by what means.
For now we can stab in the dark and hopefully hit something.

deff said:
Well, I did find telekinesis was easier while on mushrooms, but I began practicing sober, and only tried once or twice on them.


Try big stuff on shrooms, like levitating yourself or changing the weather.  Try thinking out loud.  I find mushrooms can involuntarily make stuff happen.  I'm sure there are important event that people overlook thinking they were just hallucinating.

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Although, it doesn't seem that amazing when you're on mushrooms, almost like you have a deeper understanding of it on the subconscious level. Anyways, thanks for making this post magnum, as I think I'm going to get back into tk now :smile:


I am glad I have influenced you this way!  You have some real talent there.  You may be able to do biokinesis and heal sick people some day.  Immagine that?  Maybe some day we'll bump into each other.

Stay safe.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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Does anyone have any ideas on what the underlying forces in telekinesis are? How about telepathy? How about ESP? Etc.

It is common knowledge that we only use a small percentage of the brain we have. I do believe that activating dormant parts of the brain have something to do with the answers to these above questions.

What do these things tell us about ourselves?

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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> It is common knowledge that we only use a small percentage of the brain we have.

Common knowledge is often incorrect, as in this case. The old saying, we only use 10% of our brain, is being used out of context. Perhaps only 10% of the neurons in our brain our active at any given moment, but that does not mean that we only use 10% of our brain. If I carve out 90% of your brain matter, you will no longer function.

> What do these things tell us about ourselves?

That we often fall for what we want to believe regardless of what science has shown us to be true and accurate.


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Just another spore in the wind.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: Seuss]
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i saw a thing on tv the other day where some kid got shot in the head and they removed half of the top of his head. only 50% of his brain remained and he had a big gap on the right side of his head... looked really wicked, but they said he went on to graduate from a university hehe.

I have had some insane things happen to me while chemically enhanced. the scariest for me so far was last semester in my room with my roomate. we had taken 4-500mg of dxm and were chilling in the room when his bed started violently shaking. no one was on it, or near it, but it was literally jumping several inches into the air and scared the shit out of both of us. it happened two more times after that as well. i was completely at a loss for words in more ways then one... but you know how it is, after if happens you begin to doubt and doubt until you begin to dismiss it as a collective hallucination or rattling pipes or something. I wish we had taped it.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: fearfect]
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That's fuckin nuts. It sounds like what some people have reported as polterguists. It could have been a polterguist or it could have been randomly occurring telekinesis which some speculate is the root of all or some activity which bears the label "polterguist."

I myself have seen a my stepdad's spirit and he slammed a door. So I know that spirits exsist (as ghosts). There were witnesses. The girl that was there freaked out because she felt it. I actually saw it. The other dude didn't think it was anything, so I know that some people have it and some people don't.

There was a really tingly feeling in the room when it slammed, it was hard to describe.

I can immagine how the bed shaking would freak you out completely. It would freak me out depending on if I felt under attack or not. Do you think it was telekinetic or a spirit/ghost? Did you or your friend feel a presence, tingly. Did you see anything? An orb? an Aura?

I wish you taped it too, I would send you prints of the illest strain when they come through for a copy of that tape.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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I myself have seen a my stepdad's spirit and he slammed a door. So I know that spirits exsist (as ghosts). There were witnesses. The girl that was there freaked out because she felt it. I actually saw it. The other dude didn't think it was anything, so I know that some people have it and some people don't.
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I forgot to add that the experience showed that spirits can have an effect on physical matter.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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Me
I myself have seen a my stepdad's spirit and he slammed a door. So I know that spirits exsist (as ghosts). There were witnesses. The girl that was there freaked out because she felt it. I actually saw it. The other dude didn't think it was anything, so I know that some people have it and some people don't.


I forgot to add that the experience showed that spirits can have an effect on physical matter.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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"but you know how it is, after if happens you begin to doubt and doubt until you begin to dismiss it as a collective hallucination or rattling pipes or something."

A similar incident occurred a few years back with one of my friends. We were in my basement when a VERY bright 'orb' (maybe the size of a small melon) appeared and then "chased" us as we ran away from it. We were absolutely shocked by this, but over the years the memory fades into a memory of an orginal memory, so much so that it's easy to doubt it even happened. For a while I thought it may have even been a dream, until I recently brought it up and my friend remembered it perfectly. I hate how things lose their 'awe' over time :frown:

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: deff]
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I've seen an orb in my room once, it just sped off.

Annother time me and a friend were tripping in a closed off room in his basement.

My friend was sitting so he could see out the door into the basement.

All the sudden I saw a flash of bright white light come from outside the door shine on the walls just inside the doorway and door. This caught my boy's attention and he looked then asked me and said "did you see that?"

I told him I had seen a flash reflect off the walls like someone shined a light or something and asked if anyone was out there.

He reported to me that he saw a stange orb of light shaped kind of like a heart without a point. The shape of a clefted circle with bulging around the cleft. It was shining white and pulsating, kind of. I think it also went through the walls. It was really strange.

I believe my friend, I think me and him should talk about it again. I think I'm going to call him right now. We both saw it, I don't know if it would have happenned if we were not tripping.

Actually getting chased by an orb sounds scary! I don't know what the fuck those things really are, but they exsist. I've never heard of them being a threat or acting in a threatenning (almost territorial in your case) manner.

One of my cousins used to see orbs alot, one time she was in a room with her family and a multicoloured orb (which switched colors) flew in and hoverred over the table. I think she was the only one who saw it and then it sped off. I asked her what it meant and she said that it was random.

I might start an orb thread sometime later.

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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Does anyone have any other good websites or guides to this subject?

It frustrates me that when I look up psychic, I get a bunch of taro/astology pay sites for searching the word "Telekinesis." I'm not bashing taro cards or astrology or anything, but what does a taro card have to do with Telekinesis?

I'm looking for info on anything mind over matter that doesn't involve the use of physical tools such as cards, wands, etc. I am looking for serios websites; No cheese please!

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Re: Telepathy, mind over matter, telekinesis [Re: MAGnum]
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Be here now buddy. That doesn't mean look outside of reality for things to spice up your life. The spice is in your everyday existance, in the things you take for granted as you try to create little psiballs that could very well be the product of your imagination.


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.sean

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