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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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Enter said:
I believe we should allow a large portion of America to still experience life as it had been before electricity: Living with farmland, slowing things down, making life a more beloved experience. Assuming there are others out there, and I know there are others and out there, that would want this too.


It is entirely possible to make life a more beloved experience in ANY situation we find ourselves in. Requiring farmland or a slow pace of living is not necessary, and relying on such to find the real meanings in life is being attached to that kind of living.

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We've got all this anxiety, all this bottled up emotion which is resulting in energy that isn't be used (properly, fully). Look at all the people on xanax and paxil - there's a lot of them out there and you can meet a few on these boards too. Look at all the people smoking pot on a daily basis just to keep mello and detached from the otherwise mad reality of American life.


It all depends on what a child learns as he is brought up, and the way he subsequently reacts to the world and different situtations they are put into. I don't have anxiety, and any that I do have is showing me what I need to fix to get into a more conscious mindset.

Myself, when I smoke, I do it to heighten self discovery and to wrap my head around experiences and feel them for what they are. No hiding from the big bad world here.. I could be a head of a sucessful corporation in New York and not have any emotional or consciousness problems..

It is all about what you experience and the way you react to it. What you think in your head and what you really FEEL. Not everyone is pushed into an abyss of depression everytime someone dies or someone makes fun of them or they are not accepted.. some of us are above being addicted to security issues.
Peace.





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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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"One other thing TripeeChik, please don't blaspheme again. It's very impolite to me and first and foremost you're literally trying to tell God that He's worthless by blaspheming."

Don't ever speak negatively of technology again, it offends me, and it offends the good people at Intel corp.

If I think your god is worthless, and I do, then I have every right to say so.




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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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so youre the the one who turned off the lites on the east coast eh. as much as people didnt up and loot doesnt mean that turning off power will help anything. people are fucked up. thats just unrealistic idealism.

personally i enjoy technology. im sure you do too. the solution isnt getting rid of it, moreso just raising consciousness. rite.

[skipping the christianity issue]

my jesus doesnt think its blaspheme, becuz he understands that me calling him muthafucker is purely outta love.


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look buddy,,

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: Phluck]
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Phluck said:
Almost everyone finds a scapegoat for all of the ills in the world. Muslims in the middle east blame America, and Americans blame terrorists, some people blame religion, some people blame money, some people blame blacks, or whites, or jews. You've chosen to blame technology.

The thing is, almost none of these scapegoats have been around forever, unlike human suffering.

Actually, one scapegoat has been around as long as humans, and that is human nature. We're programmed like any other animal, to be greedy, territorial, and inconsiderate.


The only thing that is responsible for anything you experience is yourself. ONLY. You make of the world what you want. You react how you want to react. Complete free will here. Nobody makes anyone do anything.

And the programming to be greedy, territorial, and inconsiderate is USELESS and only blinds us from what is really going on. Realizing this is the first step towards blocking this programming off and rendering it useless.. it no longer serves no purpose as none of us are living in the jungle anymore, fighting for our survival. And even if we were, living in a more tuned-in center would be much more effective towards staying alive..

I'd hate to be chasing a rabbit, which appears to be the only source of food, and be so blind to anything else to notice the unlimited buffet bar that I am running past, and of course the cliff ahead that I will fall off of because I wasn't paying attention.. See what I mean?
Peace.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: fireworks_god]
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I have always found that relying on a pre-made belief system only subjects my free will to that organization, effectively tying me down to any shortcoming or intentional control that comes with.

My beliefs and my thoughts are my own, and that way I only have myself to blame, instead of the Devil, or terrorists, or anything else..
Peace.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: fireworks_god]
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"The only thing that is responsible for anything you experience is yourself"

Your implying that anyone that has any input into your life especially as a child doesnt influence you in some way?
Things happen you have to experience you have no choice for whatever reason, how are you responsible for say seeing your father getting murdered in front of your eyes?
I dont mean to be picky but thats a bit of a silly thing to say

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: Oook]
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Oook said:
"The only thing that is responsible for anything you experience is yourself"

Your implying that anyone that has any input into your life especially as a child doesnt influence you in some way?
Things happen you have to experience you have no choice for whatever reason, how are you responsible for say seeing your father getting murdered in front of your eyes?
I dont mean to be picky but thats a bit of a silly thing to say


Well, if you say, had your eyes closed, you wouldn't see it, now would you?

It isn't a silly thing to say, it is the truth, you are just misunderstanding it. Every thought you have is at your own will. Therefore, you are deeply responsible for every thought you have. See how it works? You aren't responsible for the actual input that depicts your father's death, but you ARE responsible for any thoughts related, which is what really makes the experience to yourself. Therefore, you are responsible, no?
Peace.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: TrippeeChik]
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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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im seriously not trying to attack you. i do have respect for your personal beliefs, but do you think you have respect for mine? (sidenote: the symbolism of jesus does personally mean something to me)

i wouldnt mind sitting down one on one and discussing christianity with you, but you have to admit you are coming across a bit dogmatic. also i have sat down with a few pastors to discuss their beliefs and answers came in the form of 'becuz it says so in the bible'. a christian friend has even told me 'if you dont accept christ, you will go to hell... but a rapist/pedophile can save himself by accepting christ before he dies, even if it is a second before.'


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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: TrippeeChik]
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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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dont you think if you vehemently think your belief is the rite and only way, its disrespectful in theory? you are basically implying that i am going to (your) hell. id like to think if you are essentially a good person, it wouldnt matter what your beliefs are.

also, i would like to know why you personally think the christian god is the rite way. how did you come to this conclusion?


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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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I apologize if I've genuinely offended you, but any attempt to control what someone else says pisses me off. Don't take blasphemy personally.

People have powerful experiences all the time. Moments when things become "clear" or they have a powerful entity speak to them, and it injects joy/knowledge/fear/faith into their hearts. I've had moments like these, and with them comes the desire to believe that what you experienced was something cosmic and special. To some it's Jesus's love, to others it's nirvana.

Afterwards, I thought "Does my mind have the capacity to completely fabricate an experience like this?". Well, after my experiences with psychedelics drugs, I'd have to say definately yes.

I think your PERSONAL experience with god was nothing more than a hallucination.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: TrippeeChik]
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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: TrippeeChik]
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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: Phluck]
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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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do you believe "God" is transcendent or immanent?


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if you can't find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it?

this is the purpose

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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I'm not sure if you've ever had an experience in life that what basically ineffable (you were unable to really talk about it). You can kind of talk about it but it's not making any sense to anyone else. That's the type of testimony that I have. I believe in Jesus Christ based on the Holy Spirit pointing my attention to Him. I believe in Jesus Christ because His Holy Spirit has literally revealed Himself to me.


I assume you were familiar with the names "Jesus Christ" and "Holy Spirit" before this event, and that you immediately associated what you experienced with these names. It wasn't so that you found the connection later, nor that the names were revealed to you for the first time during the experience. Is that correct?

In that case your prior exposure to Christian symbols influenced your associations. Supposing you had grown up without this exposure, how do you think that would have affected such an ineffable experience? Especially in light of your answering "Yes" to GazzBut's question in another thread:

anyone following any of the other religous systems in the world have basically got it wrong?

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: Rhizoid]
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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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i think his "statements" were questiaons. here. were you familiar with the names "Jesus Christ" and "Holy Spirit" before this event? did you immediately associate what you experienced with these names? did you find the connection later, or were the names revealed to you for the first time during the experience? was your prior exposure to Christian symbols influenced your associations? Supposing you had grown up without this exposure, how do you think that would have affected such an ineffable experience?


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this is the purpose

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Re: How are America's Children Experiencing the World? [Re: World Spirit]
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Yet can you put all of your certainty in this "excuse" of yours?


I don't know what "excuse" you are talking about. I am only trying to find out what the relation is between your ineffable experience and your belief that all religions except yours are wrong.

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