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Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. * 1
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It seems that the EU has decided to let the arms embargo with Syria lapse, thus justifying an influx of weapons to Al Qaeda/Al Nusra/FSA. Of course this is mainly a symbolic joke as European manufactured weapons have already flooded into the hands of the FSA, facilitated by the US. The vast majority of those in the middle east don't want our weapons there, and don't want their own governments to get involved in this sectarian civil war.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/29/many-in-middle-east-oppose-e-u-decision-on-syria-arms-embargo/?wprss=rss_world

We now have McCain aka. Jane Fonda's crippled whore sister visiting Syria claiming he is sure that weapons wont fall into the hands of the "bad guys" as if he were there to dole the weapons out to the very same assholes that have admitted they learned their craft while blowing up American soldiers and civilians in Iraq. I just love how he states that concerning the radical foreign jihadists a"Every single day, more and more extremists flow in... "They're flowing in all the time, these extremists. He is speaking about Qaeda/Al Nusra. He wants "more American involvement" in a sectarian civil war that not one freaking American wants us to be in.
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/27/18536111-mccain-slips-into-syria-to-meet-with-rebel-leaders?lite


Perhaps he could sell a few of the houses that he doesn't even know he has to fund the rebels, instead of stealing it from the American taxpayer who wants nothing to do with it.


My predictions for Syria which of course will proven to be true.

1. Assad will still be in power a year from now, regardless of the weapons that are sent to the FSA. It will prove to be yet another middle eastern money pit shithole.

2. Assad's forces along with Hezbollah will completely decimate the FSA. Syria will then morph into something analogous to Iraq with Sunni extremists performing their obligatory bombings/kidnappings/beheadings.

3. There will not be a "no fly zone" of course this is contingent on the Russians fulfilling their contractual obligations concerning the delivery of their  s-300 SAMS.

4. The more Israel takes proactive measures to stop Syria, the more they fuel the flames of Hezbollah. Whereas they once rode the fence when fighting against the FSA they now see it as they are actually fighting against western backed forces and of course THE MOTHERFUCKING JEWS.
That alone was the game changer, and I don't know why the US gave the OK to Israel to bomb Syria, when they could have taken out their missiles in a more clandestine manner.


I would therefore like to personally thank Putin for keeping us out of this war we have no business being in, and for standing up for the American soldier when our so called leaders would do anything but.

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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Therian]
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What is Israel doing to stop Syria?  What Syria?


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Assad's Syria, which at the moment is still in power.

Israel took preemptive action when taking out missiles, which they feel were going to be sent to arm Hezbollah. This in turn infuriated Hezbollah, witnessing the Jews destroy Islamic armaments on muslim soil. If Israel attempts this again,  or attempts to destroy russian made SAMS which are presumed to may/may not have made their way to Syria this will only increase the influx of Lebanese fighters to aid Assad's forces. The Jews are smart/savvy enough to have taken the missiles out in a more covert manner. Perhaps they want Assad to retain power. That would be a wise choice considering the alternative.

As it now stands there is no way in hell the FSA will win. Although the ongoing battles in Quasir will most likely be a generalized military litmus test for for both sides.


BTW, are the Jews fucking insane? They stated that if the Russians do attempt to ship these missiles to Syria, they will interpret this as an act of aggression and take out the ships. Are they absolutely serious? Israel taking on Russia? That would bring about a self destructive shitstorm of epic proportions. They need to stay the hell out of it and let the Muslims do what they do best, turn any semblance of peace and prosperity into a festering, violent, impoverished shithole ruled by sharia terror.

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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Therian]
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Therian said:
Assad's Syria, which at the moment is still in power.

Israel took preemptive action when taking out missiles, which they feel were going to be sent to arm Hezbollah. This in turn infuriated Hezbollah, witnessing the Jews destroy Islamic armaments on muslim soil. If Israel attempts this again,  or attempts to destroy russian made SAMS which are presumed to may/may not have made their way to Syria this will only increase the influx of Lebanese fighters to aid Assad's forces. The Jews are smart/savvy enough to have taken the missiles out in a more covert manner. Perhaps they want Assad to retain power. That would be a wise choice considering the alternative.


I am quite sure they would just as soon see Assad remain in power. 
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As it now stands there is no way in hell the FSA will win. Although the ongoing battles in Quasir will most likely be a generalized military litmus test for for both sides.


BTW, are the Jews fucking insane? They stated that if the Russians do attempt to ship these missiles to Syria, they will interpret this as an act of aggression and take out the ships. Are they absolutely serious? Israel taking on Russia? That would bring about a self destructive shitstorm of epic proportions. They need to stay the hell out of it and let the Muslims do what they do best, turn any semblance of peace and prosperity into a festering, violent, impoverished shithole ruled by sharia terror.



Israel has to stay out of it but Russia doesn't?


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: zappaisgod]
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israel most likely has black ops in syria right now.


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Shins]
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Like what?  For who?  I'm sure they have spies but what do you mean by "black ops"?


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: zappaisgod]
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:ninjawe:


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Like what?  For who?  I'm sure they have spies but what do you mean by "black ops"?


arming, training, buying mercenaries etc,  perhaps some undercover "boots on the ground"

you know, the usual.


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Shins] * 1
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The usual is you just making shit up about Israel.  Arming, training and buying mercenaries for who?


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: zappaisgod]
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for the purple dinosaur faction.

the "syrian rebels". :rolleyes:

Wars are fought by proxy these days you know.


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Shins]
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You think the Israelis are helping the rebels?  Why the fuck would they do that?


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Israel has to stay out of it but Russia doesn't?


If they were smart they would just sit back, eat some matzah balls and enjoy the show. I'm sure that until the FSA is defeated, Hezbollah won't turn their attention to the Zionist pigs.

But...if it were the Jews intention of keeping Assad in power, then they most certainly made the correct move. Also, Russia is sending in DEFENSIVE, not offensive armaments. This alone could/will change the dynamics of the civil war. Meaning no jew air strikes, no NATO strikes, no no-fly zones, and unfettered access to bombing the shit out of Islamic cannibals.

Comes down to this,
Putin: Uhh, Obama could you please not send weapons to create a European anti missile defense shield?

Obama: But it is only for DEFENSIVE purposes, therefore you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Unless of course your intentions are less than honorable.

Putin: Yes but we want in on it, and it could negate much of our influence in the region, so please don't deploy these missiles.

Obama: Suck my cock.


Fast foreword

Obama: Uh  could you please not send weapons to create an anti missile defensive shield?

Putin: But it is only for DEFENSIVE purposes, therefore you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Unless of course your intentions are less than honorable.

Obama: it could negate much of our influence in the region, so please don't deploy these missiles.

Putin: Suck my cock!

Can't wait to see how this plays out.

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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Therian]
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Is that correct that Russians are just sending them defensive shit?  And, not for nothing, but I'm quite sure that the jet technologies Israel, NATO and the US have can easily beat anything that the Russians are willing to put on the market to nutlogs in the Mid-East.


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
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im pretty sure my penis is bigger than yours.


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Shins]
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Is that correct that Russians are just sending them defensive shit?  And, not for nothing, but I'm quite sure that the jet technologies Israel, NATO and the US have can easily beat anything that the Russians are willing to put on the market to nutlogs in the Mid-East.


Yes, it is a surface to air weapons system. And no, this shit is for real. It could easily take out conventional U.S., Israeli, and NATO fighters and missiles, perhaps with the exception of stealth technology, but at a couple of billion dollars a piece, I don't think it is a gamble we are willing to make. 

The S-300 has had a series of upgrades, can simultaneously track and fire upon multiple targets discerning which are a threat, and uses I believe some sort of dual tracking technology whereas both the mobile command post unit and the missile its self are capable of tracking and taking out fighters, thus preventing them from being jammed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_%28missile%29

The Russians have been very open concerning their intent with these missiles stating they have sold them specifically to prevent "hotheads" intent on intervention in the Syrian conflict.  I think we know who the hotheads are to which he was referring. Once they are delivered and have trained technicians capable of using this equipment, its game over for western intervention, regardless of what McCain thinks should be done.

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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Therian]
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Syrian government forces will not receive the first shipment of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems until the middle of next year, Russian media have reported.

One defence source told the Kommersant daily that according to contracts signed in 2010, Moscow is due to deliver six sets of the S-300 systems by spring 2014. Another source said it would take another six months for the Syrian military to be trained use them.

The report contradicts assertions made on Thursday by Syria's president, Bashar al-Assad, that the systems were on their way.

The Vedomosti newspaper reported that Russia would send four S-300 systems to Syria as part of a contract worth $1bn (�660m), but that it was unclear when the arms would arrive.

The S-300 contracts were signed roughly a year before civil unrest against Assad's regime erupted in March 2011.


So I guess we have allot of time to think about what might happen.


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: psilynut]
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The reports are conflicting, but I don't think it will take that long for their delivery. Plus there is this:

A Syrian delegation is in Moscow to discuss terms and deadlines of a new contract supplying MiG-29 M/M2 fighters to Syria.

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MOSCOW — A Russian arms manufacturer says it is signing a contract to deliver at least 10 fighter jets to Syria.

Sergei Korotkov, general director of the MiG company that makes the jets, told Russian news agencies Friday that a Syrian delegation was in Moscow to discuss terms and deadlines of a new contract supplying MiG-29 M/M2 fighters to Syria.

Korotkov did not say how many MiGs Syria was buying but says it would be "more than 10."

Russia has previously said that it would only fulfill outstanding arms contracts with Syria.



Due to the fact Russia seems to be amping up their support for Assad, whereas previously they seemed to want to distance themselves from him would lead one to believe they too have faith that his regime will not fall to foreign jihadists.

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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Therian]
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DOHA, Qatar –  A former Syrian air force general who was also the country's first astronaut said Tuesday that only about one-third of Syria's fighter pilots are carrying out the daily bombing raids of rebel strongholds because President Bashar Assad's regime cannot count on the loyalty of the rest.



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A Syrian pilot who defected used his jet to bomb government forces in an area outside Damascus, opposition activists said Saturday.

The opposition Military Council in Damascus said "a (defector) pilot with his Soviet-made MiG warplane shelled military regime bases in Moadamiya district."

Damascus-based activist Haytham al-Abdallah told dpa the pilot was ordered to bomb civilian areas in the Ghotta region, east of Damascus, but he refused to obey orders.


Assad has loyalty problems. Hard to say how this will play out. There's talk of a no fly zone too.


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
im pretty sure my penis is bigger than yours.


And I'm pretty sure you're a transvestite hooker.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.


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Re: Your predictions on Syrian end game, McCain and arms embargo lapse. [Re: psilynut]
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psilynut said:
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Syrian government forces will not receive the first shipment of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems until the middle of next year, Russian media have reported.

One defence source told the Kommersant daily that according to contracts signed in 2010, Moscow is due to deliver six sets of the S-300 systems by spring 2014. Another source said it would take another six months for the Syrian military to be trained use them.

The report contradicts assertions made on Thursday by Syria's president, Bashar al-Assad, that the systems were on their way.

The Vedomosti newspaper reported that Russia would send four S-300 systems to Syria as part of a contract worth $1bn (�660m), but that it was unclear when the arms would arrive.

The S-300 contracts were signed roughly a year before civil unrest against Assad's regime erupted in March 2011.


So I guess we have allot of time to think about what might happen.


This is kind of what I thought.


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