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Re: Why Jesus isn't coming back [Re: mylfgur]
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Then its in vain or just to confusing for anyone to make it to heaven regardless


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Re: Why Jesus isn't coming back [Re: Gogeta]
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Gogeta said:
It says in the bible he wont return until after the tribulation... do you see the mark of the beast? How about the plagues...? How about the antichrist?





What if "John" just had a bad dream, or a bad trip and none of that is real?


Or what if it's real, but it's all symbolic and you're (along with billions of others) waiting to see certain particular events which will never necessarily manifest in the way you expect, because they're all symbolic and metaphorical?



And do understand-- I don't mean that first point to be wholly dismissive. But sometimes I'm not sure how much I'd trust much of the New Testament. A particularly religious person might argue that the books of the NT would have formed with help from god, divinely guiding man's hand, so as to fit in perfectly with His Divine Plan. But what if this is not the case? A lot of material was written by early christians. Very little of it, comparatively, made it into the canon of the New Testament.

But what if we are actually seeing human political, aesthetic, or opinative influence in these books?



Is it not able to interpret christ's words in a more present tense? The kingdom that is always coming?

Some mystics view the teaching in this way, indeed. Would that not negate a literal take on the book of revelation?


Just some thoughts....


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Re: Why Jesus isn't coming back [Re: CidneyIndole]
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Growing up I would always say I'd do what I want until either;

1. I reach an old age like 70, then repent and stay as positive as I can until the day I die

Or

2. There was some actual world wide revelation/apocalypse, then repent and stay positive

Then in 2009 I got into conspiracies/truth seeking and seen how evil men are so it seemed to me like satan is really in control of earth and is doing a damn good job deceiving people into thinking he doesn't exist and to keep falling into sin more and more..

Now its 4 years later and things are still bad, yet things have always been bad...things are getting worse and I can read inbetween the lines..

The tiniest things are turning people into addictive brainwashed demons..

Cigarettes
GMO Foods
Fluoride
Aspartame
BPA
Corn (high fructose corn syrup, corn sugar, corn on the cob, corn starch, modified corn starch, etc)
Public Education / college
Debt
Chemtrails
Music
Movies
Art
Sex
Pornography
Radiation
Drugs (both the "war on drugs" and non-violent crimes/incarceration - also big pharma modifying children and adults brains)
Money - which sums all the above up and even more subcategories like family division (divide and conquer) / murder / false judgment and labeling (class)

A friend of mine doesn't believe in heaven and hell and claims money is peoples god, which seems to be the case.. however, IS there an ACTUAL God? Or are humans so smart they just created the system to make things have "value" and they control it so they can basically create/modify the future and have anything they want?

Science cant answer everything, atheists cant answer everything, and christians cant answer everything..

Its so fucked up though because if there is a God, 80% of people were born just to go to hell and the 20% are either mentally retarded so they cant be held accountable for their actions, or they are aborted babies or children in general...

It seems no adults go to heaven because our carnal instinct/desires overpower our hearts.. but other then subjection, what is right/wrong?

I always bring up hitler, but is he in hell burning or is he off the hook?

How about monsanto? They are causing millions of deaths and tens of millions of diseases for us all, are they off the hook too?

WHY THE FUCK ARE WE ALIVE? WHY????? then my bad trips stem around this shit and I cant suicide because ill go straight to hell anyway rofl.. so I gotta live with hatred in my heart watching the world crumble... that's nooooo fucking way to live......

I didnt even scratch the surface about how much deception there is..

And yes, I know many books have been removed from the bible, but if its not real, why go through the trouble hiding stuff from us?

Im so tired of fucking waiting for Jesus to return, its been long enough.. fuck.. this is how schizophrenia and bipolar was created.. conflict in beliefs...

Parts of me thinks there is an EVIL force that did all this just to watch and observe and destroy ALL forms of life.. in youare born, you are trolled! Period


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