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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Acidic_Sloth] * 2
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Acidic_Sloth said:
chat was created AFTER the closure of IRC, in the attempt to SEE if a chat affiliated with the site would work. the administration decided it probably wouldn't work in the long-run and posed the question to the forum moderators, some of which apparently had to deal with people receiving complaints of site-wide bans from chat ops for chat infractions, which is definitely unacceptable. the moderators and administrators discussed the options we had at this point for several weeks and then we took a vote. the vote was overwhelmingly in favor of disabling chat features offered through the site due to liability and escalating drama; we don't want a Ripper repeat and we don't want to have to pay $25k for bandwidth again due to a DDoS attack. i think these are great reasons in favor of not offering the service any more.


i know nothing about the user created forums except for the fact that i hid them on the main forum index.




Sell Your Soul claimed to be the technical admin only for chat, and left head moderating up to me.  I never heard once from any forum mod. Complaints should have been directed to me.

Site wide bans were indeed given on occasions for things such as buying and selling drugs openly, or harassing users in pms to conduct illegal sales, or for admitting being underage.  Once old long time perma banned people realized there was a new chat, and a clean slate, we had a huge infiltration of old trolls.  Thanks admin for letting the trolls win this one for us, and forgetting long time chain of command practices.


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: ShroomDoom] * 3
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ShroomDoom said:
It would be naiive to say this is solely your fault. You are however one of the main antagonizing factors as to why the chat drama spilled over into forums. No one should forget that.




tell it like it is brother


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: k00laid]
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k00laid said:
i didnt want the chat to be removed.

i wanted the power abuse brought to light.

after it was brought to light, this is what happened.

and like i said, i didnt even PM ythan, the complaints he is mentioning certainly didnt come from me.

i dont know why you think this is "all my fault"




It's ok if you and StateOfMind404 like to butt fuck..no one really cares anymore..chat is gone, thanks to both of you, and a handful of other small dicks just like yourselves.


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Acidic_Sloth] * 2
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Acidic_Sloth said:
i never got complaints for chat; i'm almost certain most of them ended up being support tickets which go to the admins.

i loved IRC, and the way that worked was much better than the chat system on-site worked. there really should have been way more beta testing before it was officially launched, with a firm set of rules in place in addition to the rules that apply to posting on the site.

i don't know what was going on in there, i never went in as i don't concern myself with anything other than moderating the actual forums. after the fiasco (which wasn't even the FIRST fiasco) with IRC, i was against the idea that a chat should even be created, especially without proper testing before launching.

you guys act like being a moderator on the forums is so easy, so stress free. please stop making assumptions about the type of job we have to do as well as making broad generalizations about all of us. i don't claim to know what your life is like, so please don't make assumptions about mine.




I would like to point out as well that the introduction to chat included a means to file a support ticket to Chatterbox, the puppet account for admin use of chatterbox...over the course of the trial...chatterbox received two support tickets and two messages.....  upper admins should have encouraged complainers to take the defined route for complaints regarding chat...imo


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: SmokinErb] * 2
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All bans/kicks should be required to have a logged screenshot, date/time/reason along with evidence.



We actually have had an official ban log , and there was protocol to post logs in the ban forum for chatterbox admin. The threads in the forum were ongoing from former chat, so we could also reference past case history.  I guess the admins considering complaints never checked our chatterbox forum to see documentation.

That forum was deleted by Sell  Your Soul so none of us can reference them now.


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Gretchenmeister] * 1
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there should have been clear, concise rules laid in place before it was ever launched. users should have been encouraged to read these rules before participating in chat.


ultimately, it wasn't about these users, but about the potential for malicious acts against the site because of possible animosities some users may have. and while that's a lot of "ifs" and "maybes," our history with chat and the user base we draw points to nothing but trouble. you are aware of this, Gretch. the entire implementation was hasty and contributed to it not working out. there are a lot of things that should have been done, but werent, and a lot that should not have been done and were.


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Gretchenmeister] * 1
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There were concise rules for chat. What wasn't done that should have been done?

The users were the problems and you got rid of chat because of the possibility of something happening that had happened before? If the real problem was the possibility of a malicious chat like the one before, why even implement chat in the first place? And why insist upon blaming the problems of unstable users on something inherently neutral like a chat functionality?


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"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 1
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not just once, but several times. if it were an isolated incident, i doubt it would have gone down the way it did. i don't know why chat was implemented in the first place, only that it was done practically overnight with little to no discussion. the chat functionality is only neutral until malicious or unstable users become involved, then it is far from neutral. Joie, i don't know how many times you can receive the same answer to the same questions and persist with asking them over and over. you will not get an answer you like regarding this, so ask a different question. i realize that you had an emotional investment in chat, and i really am sorry that it is gone, as i'm sure it cuts deep, but it's done.


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Adden] * 1
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Dystopia said:
I don't know how daytime chat was, but from midnight to 8am EST it was a wonderful environment, and I'm going to miss the shit out of it.

I made a lot more friends in chat during the last 3 months than I have on these boards with my original account and this current account.




Same :frown:

I just made it home from work and to see Chat is gone forever makes me sad. It was getting out of hand a bit but overall it was a chill environment and kept me coming back to the site every night.

It's a shame too because the last 2 nights I've been there have been the best in a while! It seemed like a lot of the trolling had died down finally but we have great memories.

If anything the chat reminded me what I loved about this forum and like I said before, I made some great friends that I think will be a part of my life for a long time. :hug: You all.

-Token


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: JoieDeVivre] * 7
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Thanks to Ythan, for ridding us of that horrible cesspool of idiocy known as "Chat".

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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: ltd]
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holy shit, where did you come from?


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Mocha Bear]
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tclsc03 said:
Dystopia said:
I don't know how daytime chat was, but from midnight to 8am EST it was a wonderful environment, and I'm going to miss the shit out of it.

I made a lot more friends in chat during the last 3 months than I have on these boards with my original account and this current account.




Same :frown:

I just made it home from work and to see Chat is gone forever makes me sad. It was getting out of hand a bit but overall it was a chill environment and kept me coming back to the site every night.

It's a shame too because the last 2 nights I've been there have been the best in a while! It seemed like a lot of the trolling had died down finally but we have great memories.

If anything the chat reminded me what I loved about this forum and like I said before, I made some great friends that I think will be a part of my life for a long time. :hug: You all.

-Token




Just fired up the PC and got online.. at 5:44am... to logon chat because I have a few random questions I wanted quick answers too. Chat was a wonderful resource, I knew I could find those quick answers there.

Unfortunately, Chat's not there anymore.
Great job:greatjob: for destroying such a beautiful thing.


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: b plus]
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morning b!

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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Gretchenmeister]
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ARRRRG  do i really have to download irc?

there is no way without downloading?

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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Gretchenmeister] * 5
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Gretchenmeister said:
k00laid said:
i didnt want the chat to be removed.

i wanted the power abuse brought to light.

after it was brought to light, this is what happened.

and like i said, i didnt even PM ythan, the complaints he is mentioning certainly didnt come from me.

i dont know why you think this is "all my fault"




It's ok if you and StateOfMind404 like to butt fuck..no one really cares anymore..chat is gone, thanks to both of you, and a handful of other small dicks just like yourselves.



Someone seriously trusted this user to lead and assign mods for chat?

In fact most of the chat mods that have posted in this thread clearly demonstrate why chat got removed, yet they keep blaming certain users instead. :lolsy:


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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Everlong]
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who are you talking about?

your post makes no sense

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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: friskie]
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alright i downloaded mirc... uhh i cant figure it out

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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: friskie]
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fuck it i give up

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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: Shroomism] * 2
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Shroomism said:
I see a lot of self-righteous entitlement in this thread.



That's because there are far too many twits in the world.


Narcissistic and Entitled to Everything! Does Gen Y Have Too Much Self-Esteem?

No one looks the way I do.
I have noticed that it’s true.
No one walks the way I walk.
No one talks the way I talk.
No one plays the way I play.
No one says the things I say.
I am special.
I am me.

Gen Y – people born between 1978 and 1997 – grew up singing that nursery song. Today many parents and psychologists wonder if songs like that were not big mistakes.

In the 1980s world of child rearing, the catchword was “self-esteem.” Unconditional love and being valued “just because you’re you!” was the prevailing philosophy. In practice, it involved constantly praising children, not criticizing them under any circumstances, emphasizing feelings, and not recognizing one child’s achievements as superior to another’s. At the end of a season, every player “won” a trophy. Instead of just one “student of the month,” schools named dozens. Teachers inflated grades from kindergarten through college: “C” became the new “F.” No one ever had to repeat a grade because staying behind caused poor self-esteem.

The result of these child-rearing practices has been a measurable increase in narcissism and a generation that has a deeply embedded sense of entitlement, according to authorities like Dr. Jean Twenge, author of Generation Me: Why Today’s Young Americans are More Confident, Assertive, Entitled and More Miserable Than Ever. Dr. Twenge of San Diego State University studied more than 16,400 students who took the Narcissistic Personality Inventory between 1982 and 2006. In 1982, only a third of the students scored above average on the test. Today that number is over 65%.

The new trend toward self-centeredness and self-love might be bad for society. Dr. Twenge warns that narcissists lack empathy, overreact to criticism, and favor themselves over others. They are incapable of cheering anyone else’s success. Ultimately, they led miserable lives because they cannot form and maintain healthy relationships.

According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, corporations like Lands End and Bank of America are hiring “praise teams” to keep up with Gen Y’s demand for constant positive reinforcement. Other generations believed that as long as no one fired them, their work must be okay. Gen Y needs constant praise in the form of emails, awards, celebration balloons and other such tangible recognition of their work or they become anxious.

The constant stream of praise has resulted in what psychologist Dr. Linda Sapadin calls “a runaway inflation of speech.” No girl is pretty: she’s drop dead gorgeous. That guy is a genius (not merely bright). Dr. Sapadin says the word “nice” is a put-down.

Gen Y’s need for affirmations often accompanies an intense sense of entitlement. A therapist with the Aspen Education Group describes it as “I want it now! Now! I have to have it right now!” A Gen Y with a sense of entitlement will also refuse to take responsibility when he makes a mistake. For example, if he gets a speeding ticket, he expects his parents to pay for the ticket and increased insurance premiums and to keep on driving as if nothing happened.

Refusing to stand up to the demands of Gen Y is causing financial problems for many parents. Ian Pierpoint, an executive with market research company Synovate, coined the phrase “gold-collar kids,” who insist on expensive brand names like Versace or Dolce and Gabbana. The problem is that many gold-collar kids have blue-collar parents who go into credit card debt to meet their children’s demands (many of whom still live at home well into their twenties).

Because Gen Y parents have always treated their children as friends and equals, by the teen years they have learned to use bad behaviors to get what they want. As Dr. Susan Jennings says, “If the kid gets what she wants, she’s all sweetness.” If not, she’ll tantrum, sulk, and otherwise torture her parents until she gets her way.

Therapists who work with troubled teens often talk about their sense of entitlement as a major hurdle in the struggle to help them. Teens feel entitled to their life-styles, no matter how self-destructive. If a parent reared her child with the attitude “I don’t want to interrupt his happiness for even one moment,” the teen will have a hard time establishing the discipline and willpower necessary to work through addictions and behaviors such as alcoholism, substance abuse, promiscuous sex, mismanagement of anger, compulsive shopping, and so forth.

The advice from experts is for parents to “toughen up” by following some general guidelines:

    Put limits on spending by giving your teen an allowance. When it’s gone, there’s no more until next time.
    Let your teen face the natural consequences of his behavior. If he bangs up your car, let him pay for it.
    Teach your child to apologize to others, to understand their point of view, and otherwise demonstrate “emotional intelligence.”
    Watch how you use praise. The late prominent educator John Holt warned parents that praising a child is a massage to parental egos: building up the child becomes a form of building up yourself. Give specific praise for a specific piece of work or action. For example, tell the child, “You did a great job on that picture,” and not “You’re a great artist.” Don’t use praise to manipulate as in “You’re so brilliant, you could be a doctor.”
    Let children earn self-esteem from working hard and achieving in a real way.

The bad news is that most Gen Y parents will be unable do these things.

“You have to be willing to have your kids not like you,” Dr. Jennings said. “Today’s parents aren’t willing to do that.”

http://aspeneducation.crchealth.com/articles/article-entitlement/


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Why is chat gone? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Yaaaa.....We all got screwed really.

here:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17810668


A lot of the regulars have signed up, feel ffree.


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