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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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not to mention the pyramids



And yet you did! There is nothing hi-tech about placing rocks in a big pile and the paintings you allude to have been covered by Diploid at least 5 times over the years here.

In short, you have been duped by popular and erroneous mythology. :sorry:



You really believe that people thousands of years ago made that with out any help? Even if that were true explain why they are all over the world. I do believe there is more to pyramids than "placing rocks in a big pile" and as for anything else  Diploid has covered is new info to me, ive not been a member long much less do i track back to archives from different members. Just show me something that points towards what what im saying is bullshit and hey maybe ill believe it, im pretty open to speculation. :smile:

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising]
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OP, the answer to a lot of your question is religion.  When people 100% believe in a dogma that feeds the ego (and makes no mention of other worlds) it's pretty easy to discount much of science, esp. thinking we're the only ones in the universe.

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising]
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MarsManRising said:
OrgoneConclusion said:
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not to mention the pyramids



And yet you did! There is nothing hi-tech about placing rocks in a big pile and the paintings you allude to have been covered by Diploid at least 5 times over the years here.

In short, you have been duped by popular and erroneous mythology. :sorry:



You really believe that people thousands of years ago made that with out any help? Even if that were true explain why they are all over the world. I do believe there is more to pyramids than "placing rocks in a big pile" and as for anything else  Diploid has covered is new info to me, ive not been a member long much less do i track back to archives from different members. Just show me something that points towards what what im saying is bullshit and hey maybe ill believe it, im pretty open to speculation. :smile:



According to ancient texts from around the world, bearded men from a sunken city build many of the ancient sites. According to "the emerald tablets of  THOTH": Thoth was an master architect from Atlantis, and he build the Great pyramid and the sphinx for a puzzle for man to figure out at the right time in history.


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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: Ellis Dee]
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Rail_Gun said:
CosmicJoke said:
Rail_Gun said:
100 billion alien planets fill our galaxy: study

It seems to me that if people don't know there are extraterrestrials that they have a screw loose. To me it seems as backwards as believing in a flat Earth. Given the incontrovertible evidence of ETs visiting the Earth and the billions of Alien planets how can otherwise rational people still hold such primitive notions like there are no ETs or that the Earth is the center of the solar system?

:strokebeard:



I'm fairly sure Copernicus cleared up the err of geocentric models of the universe back in the 1700s, no rational humans at this point do believe Earth is the center of the solar system...  But incontrovertible evidence of ETs visiting earth :wtf:?  That would be a spaceship showing up in broad fucking daylight and coming down for an interview on CBS, which sure the fuck hasn't happened....  I will concede though that it's certainly probable that there is alien life out there somewhere, but I don't see how "knowing" it is making me more rational.



I'd be instantly suspicious of anything on CBS. What about UFO formations buzzing DC and stuff?



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Not to mention the thousands of other authentic photos and cases...



Yea, there is just way to much evidence proving that we are being visited by UFOs. But these beings may not be alien to our planet, the may just be alien to our dimension. There is a lot to this, and many theories revolving around it, we just have to wait to find out when our species can learn to live with its self and everything else.


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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: scottwjsm]
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scottwjsm said:
MarsManRising said:
OrgoneConclusion said:
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not to mention the pyramids



And yet you did! There is nothing hi-tech about placing rocks in a big pile and the paintings you allude to have been covered by Diploid at least 5 times over the years here.

In short, you have been duped by popular and erroneous mythology. :sorry:



You really believe that people thousands of years ago made that with out any help? Even if that were true explain why they are all over the world. I do believe there is more to pyramids than "placing rocks in a big pile" and as for anything else  Diploid has covered is new info to me, ive not been a member long much less do i track back to archives from different members. Just show me something that points towards what what im saying is bullshit and hey maybe ill believe it, im pretty open to speculation. :smile:



According to ancient texts from around the world, bearded men from a sunken city build many of the ancient sites. According to "the emerald tablets of  THOTH": Thoth was an master architect from Atlantis, and he build the Great pyramid and the sphinx for a puzzle for man to figure out at the right time in history.



Doesn't sound like a man to me.:smile: So basically some guy went around building puzzle form pyramids all over the world so that man will figure it out when they are ready?...........There definitely isnt any man who would/could have done that. So i could only speculate that if this were true it would have to of been done by a much greater force than man.

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising]
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Yea, there is just way to much evidence proving that we are being visited by UFOs. But these beings may not be alien to our planet, the may just be alien to our dimension. There is a lot to this, and many theories revolving around it, we just have to wait to find out when our species can learn to live with its self and everything else.



This ^ :smile::thumbup:

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising]
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You really believe that people thousands of years ago made that with out any help?



Of course! Did we really build computers and jets and cell phones without any help? Yes.

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Even if that were true explain why they are all over the world


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I already did. When you pile rocks up they become a mound or a pyramid. This is universal.

Your argument from incredulity does not point to ET.


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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising]
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i think there is already proof ETs have been here from the numerous historical paintings and artifacts that depict ETs or UFOs found all across the planet

BZZZZT! WRONG!

As OC said, you've been duped by ufologist playing yet another hoax to try to convince people with lies when they find that honesty doesn't quite support their precious beliefs. For example, the supposed picture of ET on a wall mural in the Tomb of Ptah-Hotep in Egypt from thousands of years ago during the 5th Dynasty. Here it is as originally presented by ET nutjob liars to convince gullible people:



Holy shit, it's ET! Nope. That's what the liars who first showed off this tightly-cropped image out of context want you to believe. Now here it is again, but this time it's in context so you can see the liar's handiwork exposed:



And one more version so you can see that ET is actually a flowerpot:



You have been lied to, and you swallowed the lie hook, line, and sinker. But you're in good company. Lots of people were duped by these liars and most who don't have the faculty of critical thinking continue to be duped even though the truth is now known.


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: Diploid]
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Alien flowerpot FTW. :bigyesnod:


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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: Diploid] * 1
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Here are some more ufologist lies for your reading pleasure.

In the Temple of Osiris at Abydos, Egypt there is an astonishing hieroglyph of a helicopter, submarine, airplane, and even a flying saucer. They date back thousands of years to the 26th Dynasty. The ufologist liars who first touted these hieroglyphs as conclusive evidence that ancient Egyptians palavered with ET deliberately misrepresented the truth once again.

Here's what the ufologist liars presented to their audience:



OMG! It's an alien helicopter and shit carved thousands of years before helicopters were invented! Nope. Those symbols appear NO WHERE ELSE in any Egyptian hieroglyphs. Why would a helicopter symbol appear only here, once, and nowhere else? Because it's not a helicopter symbol at all. Even a casual amateur student of archeology can immediately see that this is an illusion resulting from the natural erosion of the stone over thousands of years.

Here's the glyph again with the eroded parts emphasized:



Once the erosion is compensated, ALL of the symbols are well-known to archeologists. They appear countless times all over Egypt. The hieroglyph makes sense now.

Here's a wide shot of the hieroglyph. If that were really a helicopter, submarine, airplane, and so on, the symbols would certainly have been used more than once, in one specific hieroglyph, in one specific temple and nowhere else.



And here's one last shot of the hieroglyph in full context:


If that really represented a helicopter, would Egyptians have placed such an important symbol hidden up there in a corner once and never again anywhere else in Egypt? It makes no sense that they would.

Every "ancient painting of ET" has been similarly debunked as straight up lies, out of context cropping, and deliberate misrepresentations. And gain, gullible UFO nuts who only accept things that support their beliefs instead of neutrally looking at all the evidence without bias are easily duped by these lies.

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
i think there is already proof ETs have been here from the numerous historical paintings and artifacts that depict ETs or UFOs found all across the planet

BZZZZT! WRONG!

As OC said, you've been duped by ufologist playing yet another hoax to try to convince people with lies when they find that honesty doesn't quite support their precious beliefs. For example, the supposed picture of ET on a wall mural in the Tomb of Ptah-Hotep in Egypt from thousands of years ago during the 5th Dynasty. Here it is as originally presented by ET nutjob liars to convince gullible people:



Holy shit, it's ET! Nope. That's what the liars who first showed off this tightly-cropped image out of context want you to believe. Now here it is again, but this time it's in context so you can see the liar's handiwork exposed:



And one more version so you can see that ET is actually a flowerpot:



You have been lied to, and you swallowed the lie hook, line, and sinker. But you're in good company. Lots of people were duped by these liars and most who don't have the faculty of critical thinking continue to be duped even though the truth is now known.



Do tell me, how do you think we had made all the pyramids with only man power? You think they used the pulleys and levers? hahaha:laugh: Where exactly is your stance on ETs anyway? Remember......maybe they want you to think that shits crazy. Oh yeah how did man build this

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising]
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There was ultramodern, solid and unique buildings before, there are ultramodern, solid and unique buildings today. All built by man.


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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising] * 1
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Its funny or sad that people will sit like you do in 500 years questioning how man figured out internet.


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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising]
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Do tell me, how do you think we had made all the pyramids with only man power?

With man power, yes. Tens to hundreds of thousands of slaves all working for years. This isn't magic, and no ET is required. Just lots of sweat and blood.

You think they used the pulleys and levers?

Yes.

In fact, all the essential technologies required to lift heavy stones and set them in place accurately using only natural materials found near the pyramids has been duplicated by several independent teams of university students. This is old news.

Giant multi-ton blocks of stones 20 feet high were set in place with sub-millimeter accuracy and some of these teams consisted of less than 100 people in total. It took them a few weeks to weave the ropes from local plants and build the block and tackle required to move the stone blocks. Then they hauled a huge mound of sand, one bucket at a time, into the place where the stone was to eventually rest. The stone was then dragged into position on top of the sand using the ropes and the block and tackle. Then they slowly dug the sand out from under the stone as the stone settled down into exactly accurate place to a tenth of a millimeter accuracy.

I can't believe someone who is so into ET could be so unaware of these projects and posting such ignorant drivel.

Oh yeah how did man build this

A "thing" underwater reported by a mysterious "Dr. Brown" for whom we have no contact or biographic information, followed up by "teams from France and US"? WTF does that even mean?

I don't even know what those pictures are. What are the coordinates of this object? Who is Dr. Brown? What "French and US teams" reported this? Where are they from? What university? What are their credentials? Are they archeologists or just some joe-scuba divers out for a weekend boat ride?

Some fuzzy pictures of some thing at some unknown location reported by some unknown doctor who no one ever heard of and no archeologist knows anything about is meaningless.

Nothing you post is "open minded" as you claim.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: Diploid]
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Here's another way it's been done by actual modern-day university students. A team of 100 volunteers can easily lift a 500 ton block with just a lot of hard work hauling water one bucket at a time.



And another:



These are not hypothetical. All these techniques have actually been used successfully by university student volunteers.

Gawd, I can't believe I actually have to explain these simple mechanical engineering techniques to people.

Humans are doomed.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: Diploid]
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Hahaha holy shit dude im not going to study a subject for a forum i use for information and a exchanging of ideas. not to be insulted because i have a different opinion. You think being overly condescending and posting videos being a smart ass makes you smart. I guess since you know so much on this subject i must be stupid right? Haa Indeed humans are doomed. Whats your biggest dream in life diploid? Im curious to how amazing your life is and how you are not apart of humanities decline.:laugh:

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising]
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MarsManRising said:
Hahaha holy shit dude im not going to study a subject for a forum i use for information and a exchanging of ideas. not to be insulted because i have a different opinion. You think being overly condescending and posting videos being a smart ass makes you smart. I guess since you know so much on this subject i must be stupid right? Haa Indeed humans are doomed. Whats your biggest dream in life diploid? Im curious to how amazing your life is and how you are not apart of humanities decline.:laugh:



:hahthatsrich: This is a debate forum if you are not prepared to defend your ideas and provide credible sources you will not be taken seriously.


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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
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So i have to use google and post links to be considered smart . hahahahaha Its not worth it man. Talk to me person to person .

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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: MarsManRising]
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You dont think people like yourself will heavily question what you find 99.99% legit today in 500 years?


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Re: How can people not believe in extraterrestrials? [Re: liquidlounge]
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Possibly but we also keep good documentation now a days. :laugh: If some thing happened to the entire earth and all information is lost, then yeah.

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