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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: starfire_xes]
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starfire_xes said:
All this talk of criminal gangs and mobs in the US makes me tired....the two biggest criminal mobs in the US are called the democrat and republican parties..... :smirk:


Wow. Someone stumbled into the truth.

Careful.

You're a marked man now. :wink:


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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Since there are no real anarchists, only armchair faux anarchists, my disdain is for the faux anarchists who are essentially just poseur cunts who couldn't protect themselves from a stiff wind.


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: zappaisgod]
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There are tons of real anarchists, youve never heard of the crips?

Lol I thought you already asserted this point of view :lol: I wonder how many people would just get out right robbed by crips if the police didnt exist.


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: imachavel]
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imachavel said:
There are tons of real anarchists, youve never heard of the crips?

Lol I thought you already asserted this point of view :lol: I wonder how many people would just get out right robbed by crips if the police didnt exist.


All of them.  Except for the other gangs.


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: imachavel]
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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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EntheogenicPeace said:
That is just simplistic ignorance that I have already debunked. You don't think that there are any thieves or other low lives in Chiapas? Yet, anarchist-oriented indigenous communities are able to maintain their autonomy without being all robbed, raped, & enslaved into oblivion.

to zappa: Your "there are no real..." is just a cop out you offer when presented with examples that contradict your initial blanket statement of what would necessarily happen w/o the presence of authoritarian government (keeping in mind that it is more often than not personnel from government, or supported by them, commit the abuses, as is the case in Chiapas).


You have failed to provide any example that contradicts my blanket assertions.  Another massive fail on your part.  There are no anarchist communities.  Chiapas is protected by the Mexican government from invasion by my mercenary forces


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
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EntheogenicPeace said:
What absolute nonsense. It's the government and government backed factions that have committed almost all the human rights violations going back 500 years. They need the government to protect them from abuses by, the government? Just stupid, circular statist logic.


:flowstone:  What part of "my mercenary forces" do you think is the government of Mexico?  It is certainly true that the Mexican government is an utterly corrupt institution that the people of Chiapas would benefit by having me replace the corrupt government of Mexico with my own benevolent rule but that doesn't have one shred of relevance to your failure to establish that anarchic societies are even remotely viable.  So sorry.


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: zappaisgod]
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I have something to contribute to this discussion...

Blah blah blah...crap that is meaningless..power and control, money, Obamney, worthless crap, blah blah blah.


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: zorbman]
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Mitt Romney is a puppy molester. I dont have pics or a vid or anything but he's admitted to fucking a dog on the hood of his car.


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: psilynut]
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At zappaisgod

You can have example of anarchic societies in the examples of the ascentamientos in Bolivia

They Squat the lands that arent used and create cities out of them. They make their own water distribution systems and construction materials to build their homes. They dont pay taxes to the government and they dont (or barely use the services providen), hence the high infantile mortality rate. However, if they had some medics that were willing to live in their community i guess that this would be solved.

They dont have law enforcement in there, but this community is alot safer at night that most of the bigger cities of the country (like Santa Cruz.

in 3 months in this community, i've been robbed only once. And it was a kid that misunderstood that i didnt gave him my football ball. On the other side, in 1 week in Santa Cruz, i've been robbed twice for some of my clothes, and the negligible amount of cash i had with me at the time.
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Another example that i wonder nobody mentionned is one of the most famous civil disobedience advocate, Henry David Thoreau who lived (nearly) by his own in the woods of Walden. I know some other examples here in Québec, but it cant be proven on the internet, i'd have to show you in person

You dont need to be violent to be an anarchist...

Also, you look like a strange fellow Zappa, i'd be interested to speak with you if you ever come back to Quebec city


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: Amphibolos]
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But societies like that would never work in large scale nations like the US, a regulated democracy with many political and populist parties and the end to large scale contributions to politicians by lobbyists will end the vacciliating on part of both major parties, any anarcho-syndacalist or anarchist or social revolutionary is about 70 to 80 odd years a bit late, something more tempting to primarily a agrarian society. It didnt work well in Spain in the mid to late 30's and it will never work now and it would lead to needless suffering like all the panaceas that political trends and populist zeitgeists tend to promote in times of trouble.

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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: The_Red_Crayon] * 1
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"For weeks many Beltway insiders had written off the Romney campaign as dead, saying the candidate had dug himself into too deep a hole with too little time to recover. However, with a month to go before ballots are cast, Romney has pulled even with President Obama, and the former Massachusetts governor credits his rejuvenated campaign to one, singular tactic: lying a lot.

“I’m lying a lot more, and my lies are far more egregious than they’ve ever been,” a smiling Romney told reporters while sitting in the back of his campaign bus, adding that when faced with a choice to either lie or tell the truth, he will more than likely lie. “It’s a strategy that works because when I lie, I’m essentially telling people what they want to hear, and people really like hearing things they want to hear. Even if they sort of know that nothing I’m saying is true.”

“It’s a freeing strategy, really, because I don’t have to worry about facts or being accurate or having any concrete positions of any kind,” Romney added.

Romney said he is telling at least 80 percent more lies now than he was two months ago. Buoyed by his strong debate performance, which by his own admission included 40 or 50 instances of lying in one 90-minute period, the candidate said he will continue to “just openly lie [his] ass off” until the Nov. 6 election.

Whether it’s a senior citizen, military family, working mother, businessman, or middle-class American, Romney said, he will lie to every single one of them as often as he can if that’s what it takes to win the presidency.

“The best part is, it’s really easy to lie,” said Romney, who added that voicing whatever untruths come into his mind at any given moment is an easy thing to do because all it requires is opening his mouth and talking. “For example, if someone accuses me of having a tax plan that makes no discernable sense, I just lie and say that I do have a tax plan that makes sense. I also say there is a study that backs up my plan. See that? Simple. None of it is remotely true, of course, but now we’re moving on to the next topic because people are usually too afraid to ask me straight up if I’m lying, because that is apparently not something you ask someone who is running for president.”

Moreover, Romney said, if anyone does accuse him of lying, he will simply say he is not lying, which he noted is just an extension of the overall strategy.

“So, if I’m talking to retirees,” Romney continued, “I lie and say I’ll fight tooth and nail to save Medicare, which causes them to applaud. On the other hand, if I’m talking to the party base, I lie and say we have to cut Medicare, which causes them to applaud. So, you see, my goal here is to get everyone applauding for me, because if everyone is clapping their hands, standing on their feet, and shouting my name, that means they like me and will vote for me.”

Romney’s campaign advisers said that they adopted the strategy of lying a lot after realizing several things: (1) Lying sounds good, especially when the truth sounds bad, (2) the American media doesn’t care if you lie, (3) the American people don’t care if you lie, and (4) it’s okay to lie if you are very, very desperate to become the president of the United States.

“If we’re going to be carried into the White House, it’s going to have to be on a wave of lies,” Romney campaign manager Matt Rhoades said. “Most important, Mitt is comfortable when he is lying because then he doesn’t have to say anything bad. And in this last month it’s important that we just let Mitt be Mitt, whoever the hell that is.”

“It’s late in the game, but this campaign has finally found its groove,” Rhoades added. “And that groove is lying. Bald-faced, make-no-apologies, dirty, filthy lying.”

According to Romney, amidst all the lies, there is only one thing that remains true.

“I literally have no clue where I stand on any single issue at this point,” said Romney, adding that when it comes to women’s rights, gay rights, health care, the middle class, the economy, or the U.S. military, all he knows is how to lie about them. “I understand what other people want. And what I’ve learned, especially in the past week, is that in order to be a viable candidate for the White House, that’s all you really need to know.”

Following the interview, Romney told various reporters that, if elected, he would save the newspaper industry."


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Re: mitt rob-me just blew it... [Re: psilynut]
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